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Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places

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On 5/29/2017 2:24 PM, John Robertson wrote:
> On 2017/05/29 12:56 PM, Jamie M wrote:
>> On 5/29/2017 9:24 AM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
>>> Den mandag den 29. maj 2017 kl. 18.05.22 UTC+2 skrev Jamie M:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Here are a couple studies showing the danger of vaccines related to
>>>> causing heart disease.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16780845
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26122188
>>>>
>>>
>>> so if vaccines keep you from dying young you might eventually die of 
>>> a heart attack ...
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Close, I'd say:
>>
>> "Vaccines increase your chance of dying young and increase your chance
>> of eventually dying of a heart attack."
>>
>> cheers,
>> Jamie
>>
> 
> No, read up on the risks of the diseases the vaccinations prevented. 1 
> in twenty kids getting measles get pneumonia.
> 
> https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/complications.html
> 
> Mumps:
> 
> https://www.cdc.gov/mumps/about/complications.html
> 
> Mumps can occasionally cause complications, especially in adults.
> 
> Complications include:
> 
>      inflammation of the testicles (orchitis) in males who have reached 
> puberty; rarely does this lead to fertility problems
>      inflammation of the brain (encephalitis)
>      inflammation of the tissue covering the brain and spinal cord 
> (meningitis)
>      inflammation of the ovaries (oophoritis) and/or breast tissue 
> (mastitis)
>      deafness
> 
> An ACCURATE assessment of risks would be beneficial, at this time the 
> evidence I see indicates that vaccinations save far more lives than are 
> put at risk from later complications.
> 
> It was interesting to see the research that exposure to childhood 
> diseases can reduce risk of later complications - makes sense that 
> stressing the body is good for health. I will be following this topic 
> with interest.
> 
> I have been vaccinated and my ex-wife & I vaccinated our children, and 
> they are vaccinating their child(ren).
> 
> John


Hi,

What do you think about vaccines being mandatory in some places thought? 
  If there is evidence (like from the linked studies) that they cause 
heart disease or other problems.

"The risk for acute coronary events decreased significantly with 
increasing number of childhood contagious diseases (p=0.007)."

"Protection from infections usually suffered during the childhood before 
the era of MMR vaccination may predispose the individual to CHD"

cheers,
Jamie

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OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places Jamie M <jmorken@shaw.ca> - 2017-05-29 09:05 -0700
  Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-05-29 09:24 -0700
    Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places Jamie M <jmorken@shaw.ca> - 2017-05-29 12:56 -0700
      Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places "dcaster@krl.org" <dcaster@krl.org> - 2017-05-29 14:22 -0700
        Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places Jamie M <jmorken@shaw.ca> - 2017-05-29 17:32 -0700
          Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-29 18:25 -0700
      Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2017-05-29 14:24 -0700
        Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places Jamie M <jmorken@shaw.ca> - 2017-05-29 17:35 -0700
          Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-29 19:05 -0700
            Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2017-05-30 12:43 -0700
              Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places Jamie M <jmorken@shaw.ca> - 2017-05-30 13:16 -0700
                Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2017-05-30 14:35 -0700
                Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-30 19:19 -0700
            Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2017-05-31 13:35 +0100
      Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-29 18:13 -0700
  Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-29 18:09 -0700
  Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com - 2017-05-30 11:35 -0700
    Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places Jamie M <jmorken@shaw.ca> - 2017-05-30 12:11 -0700
      Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-30 19:19 -0700
      Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com - 2017-05-31 07:14 -0700
        Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places Jamie M <jmorken@shaw.ca> - 2017-05-31 21:31 -0700
          Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com - 2017-06-02 09:32 -0700
            Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places Jamie M <jmorken@shaw.ca> - 2017-06-02 10:49 -0700
              Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2017-06-02 22:08 +0100
                Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places Jamie M <jmorken@shaw.ca> - 2017-06-05 13:45 -0700
                Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-05 19:24 -0700
              Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-02 18:46 -0700
  Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-05-31 12:47 +1000
    Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places Jamie M <jmorken@shaw.ca> - 2017-05-31 21:50 -0700
      Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-01 15:01 +1000
        Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places Jamie M <jmorken@shaw.ca> - 2017-06-02 10:59 -0700
          Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-02 18:40 -0700
      Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2017-06-01 13:10 +0800
      Re: OT vaccines cause heart disease and are mandatory in some places bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-01 01:07 -0700

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