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Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available

From	rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.electronics.design
Subject	Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available
Date	2017-05-20 04:13 -0400
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 5/20/2017 3:05 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Fri, 19 May 2017 17:58:28 -0400) it happened rickman
> <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote in <ofnpjo$skp$2@dont-email.me>:
>
>>>> "Jan Panteltje" <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ofktj4$1usa$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>
>>> So, anyways as to the man and his cat (Schroedinger for those
>>> who have not heard of his cat), when I was in Copenhagen
>>> it became clear to me there is a finite probability that he went into that park and tried LSD,
>>> and since then did not know if his cat was alive or dead.
>>> A rational explanation I think, I am all for simple explanations :-).
>>> That not even taken into account that there were 2 other theories proposed
>>> in that Copenhagen conference, one of those De Broglie's, one that makes more sense to me.
>
>> Schroedinger never said he didn't know if his cat was alive or dead.  He
>> only has to open the box and look.  Until then it exists both alive and
>> dead... but not really.
>
> It was worse, he said NOBODY could know if their cat was dead or alive ;-)
> Just imagine, and I did not even HAVE a cat.
>
> It was the sign of times, lots of LSD, it hit the masses,
> his 'math' worked, and so that was selected out of the three proposals.
>
> Worth reading:
>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen_interpretation
>
> <quote (references removed)>
>  In 1952 David Bohm developed decoherence, an explanatory mechanism for the appearance of wave function collapse.
>  Bohm applied decoherence to Louis DeBroglie's pilot wave theory,
>  producing Bohmian mechanics, the first successful hidden variables interpretation of quantum mechanics.
>  Collapse was avoided by Hugh Everett in 1957 in his relative state interpretation.
>  Decoherence was largely[34] ignored until the 1980s.
> </quote>
>
> <quote (references removed)>
> Acceptance among physicists
>  Throughout much of the twentieth century the Copenhagen interpretation had overwhelming acceptance among physicists.
>  Although astrophysicist and science writer John Gribbin described it as having fallen from primacy after the 1980s,
>  according to a very informal poll (some people voted for multiple interpretations) conducted at a quantum mechanics conference in 1997,
>  the Copenhagen interpretation remained the most widely accepted specific interpretation of quantum mechanics among physicists.
>  In more recent polls conducted at various quantum mechanics conferences, varying results have been found.
>  In a 2017 article, physicist and Nobel laureate Steven Weinberg states that the Copenhagen interpretation "is now widely felt to be unacceptable."
> </quote>
>
> It has had my attention for a long time.
> Beware of mathematicians.

Beware of those with too little or too much attention span.

-- 

Rick C

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Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-16 07:57 +0000
  Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-16 07:04 -0700
    Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-16 14:39 +0000
      Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-16 14:48 +0000
      Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-16 08:28 -0700
        Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-16 16:42 +0000
          Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-16 10:01 -0700
            Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-16 19:05 +0000
              Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-18 16:28 +0000
                Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 12:51 -0400
                Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-18 12:27 -0700
                Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-18 19:44 +0000
                Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available "Tim Williams" <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> - 2017-05-18 16:46 -0500
                Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-19 19:03 +0000
                Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 17:58 -0400
                Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-20 07:05 +0000
                Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-20 04:13 -0400
                Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-20 09:23 -0700
                Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-20 20:55 +0000
                Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-18 12:25 -0700
                Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 20:04 -0400
                Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-18 21:07 -0700
  Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2017-05-16 10:07 -0500
    Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-16 08:31 -0700
      Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available "tom" <tmiller11147@verizon.net> - 2017-05-16 11:58 -0400
        Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-16 09:51 -0700
          Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-16 19:06 +0000
            Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-16 20:37 -0400
            Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-16 19:58 -0700
              Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-16 21:30 -0700
          Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-16 20:37 -0400
      Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-05-16 13:03 -0400
        Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-16 11:21 -0700
          Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2017-05-16 13:50 -0500
      Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2017-05-16 13:01 -0500
      Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-18 10:22 +0200
        Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-18 10:26 +0000
    Re: Tritium decay experiment one more year data now available Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-16 16:28 +0000

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