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Re: OT: slightly longer life

From	Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid>
Newsgroups	sci.electronics.design
Subject	Re: OT: slightly longer life
Date	2017-05-17 13:23 -0700
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On 5/17/2017 12:39 PM, mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 12:06:29 PM UTC-7, Don Y wrote:
>> On 5/17/2017 11:54 AM, mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Just 5 min/day of running, huh.
>>> https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/07/30/running-just-5-minutes-a-day-has-long-lasting-benefits/
>>
>>
>>>
"As a group, runners gained about three extra years of life compared with those
>> adults who never ran"
>>
>> 5 minutes/day * 365 days/year * 70 years/active lifespan = 127750 min =
>> 2129 hours = (a "work year")
>>
>> (you spend 1/3 of those "extra years of life" ASLEEP and a good portion of
>> the remaining waking time RUNNING!  :>
>>
>>> And...
>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/12/well/move/an-hour-of-running-may-add-seven-hours-to-your-life.html
>
> From the second article: "Could it be, they asked rather peevishly, that if
> in order to reduce your risk of dying by a year, you had to spend the
> equivalent of a year’s worth of time on the trails or track, producing no
> discernible net gain?"
>
> "Perhaps most interesting, the researchers calculated that, hour for hour,
> running statistically returns more time to people’s lives than it consumes.
> Figuring two hours per week of training, since that was the average reported
> by runners in the Cooper Institute study, the researchers estimated that a
> typical runner would spend less than six months actually running over the
> course of almost 40 years, but could expect an increase in life expectancy
> of 3.2 years, for a net gain of about 2.8 years."

Yes, but you don't get to RUN in your sleep.  You spend WAKING time running.
So, you have to compare the WAKING time spent running to the WAKING time
gained from it.

Using the figures quoted above, 6 months were spent AWAKE and RUNNING o
gain ~2 years of WAKING life.  And, no mention of the time preparing to
run, recovering from the run, injuries incurred while running, etc.

[I say this all tongue-in-cheek, to put things in perspective.  Years ago,
it was pitched as "30 minutes/day" -- which ended up exactly covering the
increased life expectancy; i.e., you spent all that extra portion of your
life RUNNING  :> ]

I "walk briskly" (4MPH) for an hour a day, 7 days a week.  This isn't enough
to get my heart rate elevated significantly -- apparently a sign that my
heart can easily meet my body's needs; esp as my heart rate returns to normal
in tens of seconds after stopping the exertion.

For "strenuous" activity, I rely on things like digging, moving stone/tile,
etc.  All being considerably more effective at elevating my heart rate
(though a lot harder to do for extended periods of time -- esp in the sorts
of elevated temperatures we have here)

> Reminds me of a joke about marriage, since married people statistically live
> longer: "If you want to die a slow death..."

"It sure FEELS like a lot longer..."

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OT: slightly longer life mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2017-05-17 11:54 -0700
  Re: OT: slightly longer life Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-17 12:06 -0700
    Re: OT: slightly longer life mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2017-05-17 12:39 -0700
      Re: OT: slightly longer life Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-17 13:23 -0700
        Re: OT: slightly longer life mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2017-05-17 13:50 -0700
      Re: OT: slightly longer life krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-17 19:47 -0400
      Re: OT: slightly longer life rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 19:52 -0400
        Re: OT: slightly longer life krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-17 20:16 -0400
  Re: OT: slightly longer life Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-05-17 12:13 -0700
    Re: OT: slightly longer life mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2017-05-17 12:41 -0700
      Re: OT: slightly longer life Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-05-17 13:49 -0700
        Re: OT: slightly longer life mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2017-05-17 13:54 -0700
          Re: OT: slightly longer life Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-05-17 14:29 -0700
            Re: OT: slightly longer life mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2017-05-17 15:10 -0700
              Re: OT: slightly longer life Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-05-17 15:42 -0700
                Re: OT: slightly longer life mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2017-05-17 16:05 -0700
                Re: OT: slightly longer life Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-05-17 16:21 -0700
                Re: OT: slightly longer life mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2017-05-17 16:50 -0700
                Re: OT: slightly longer life Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-05-18 07:14 -0700
                Re: OT: slightly longer life mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2017-05-18 08:28 -0700
                Re: OT: slightly longer life Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-05-18 10:33 -0700
                Re: OT: slightly longer life mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2017-05-18 08:38 -0700
                Re: OT: slightly longer life Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-05-18 10:36 -0700
                Re: OT: slightly longer life mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2017-05-19 08:32 -0700
                Re: OT: slightly longer life Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-05-19 11:17 -0700
        Re: OT: slightly longer life mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2017-05-17 14:03 -0700
          Re: OT: slightly longer life rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 10:27 -0400
        Re: OT: slightly longer life John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-17 14:57 -0700
          Re: OT: slightly longer life mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2017-05-17 15:11 -0700
            Re: OT: slightly longer life John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-17 15:24 -0700
              Re: OT: slightly longer life rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 10:28 -0400
                Re: OT: slightly longer life krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-18 12:45 -0400
          Re: slightly longer life "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-20 08:17 +0100
        Re: OT: slightly longer life krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-17 19:50 -0400
          Re: OT: slightly longer life mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2017-05-18 08:20 -0700
    Re: OT: slightly longer life Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-05-18 06:52 +1000
      Re: OT: slightly longer life Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-05-18 07:32 -0700
    Re: OT: slightly longer life John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-17 14:55 -0700
  Re: OT: slightly longer life John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-17 14:54 -0700
    Re: OT: slightly longer life bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-18 19:06 -0700
    Re: slightly longer life "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-20 08:25 +0100

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