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On 2017-05-17 15:10, mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 2:29:44 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
>> On 2017-05-17 13:54, mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 1:49:27 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
>>>> On 2017-05-17 12:41, mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 12:13:11 PM UTC-7, Joerg
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2017-05-17 11:54, mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> Just 5 min/day of running, huh.
>>>>>>> https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/07/30/running-just-5-minutes-a-day-has-long-lasting-benefits/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>
And...
>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/12/well/move/an-hour-of-running-may-add-seven-hours-to-your-life.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>
So let's see, I assume bicycling hard counts just as well. 4000mi each
>>>>>> year, assuming an average speed of 11mph with the hills
>>>>>> and all, I should be adding a whopping 2545 hours or 0.3
>>>>>> years of additional life per year. So I'll be like
>>>>>> Methusaleh some day :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Regards, Joerg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.analogconsultants.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Meanwhile, other kinds of exercise also reliably benefited
>>>>> life expectancy, the researchers found, but not to the same
>>>>> degree as running. Walking, cycling and other activities,
>>>>> even if they required the same exertion as running, typically
>>>>> dropped the risk of premature death by about 12 percent. (To
>>>>> make my own biases clear, I run but I also love cycling and I
>>>>> walk my dogs every day.)"
>>>>>
>>>>> Note sure why that is :)
>>>>>
>>>>> "Of course, these additions “are not infinite,” Dr. Lee
>>>>> says. Running does not make people immortal. The gains in
>>>>> life expectancy are capped at around three extra years, he
>>>>> says, however much people run."
>>>>>
>>>>> So much for the Methuselah plan.  Maybe Enoch?  :)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If it is capped to three years then there are easier plans:
>>>> Eating! That can supposedly add 6-1/2 years :-)
>>>>
>>>> http://newagejournal.com/how-to-add-more-years-to-your-life
>>>>
>>>> Sadly beer didn't make that list. I started home-brewing again
>>>> last year.
>>>>
>>>> -- Regards, Joerg
>>>>
>>>> http://www.analogconsultants.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Did you now!  There's a pretty good supplier, You Brew It, in
>>> Rancho Cordova (closer to where I live than the Brewmeister
>>> shops).  Their supplies (yeast, bottles) are cheaper than
>>> Brewmeister; sadly, the grains are more expensive.
>>>
>>
>> Grains (or malt extract) are the main cost factors in beer. I get
>> my stuff in Minnisohtah:
>>
>> https://www.midwestsupplies.com/
>
>
> Nice!  Buying by the sack saves money also.
>

I am still a lowly extract brewer though. However, I am keeping my eyes 
peeled for two-roller grain crusher. Some day I want to do BIAB but must 
figure out a way to use two bags instead of one, on account of a bad 
lower back. I can't lift heavy stuff while bent over. Or rather, I can 
but then I will pay for that.

Grain doesn't save a lot of money or often none at all but allows more 
mods. I usually brew two batches in a day. Having only two 1kW electric 
burners under a tamale steamer pot it takes time to heat. That means 
that time-wise I might be able to do one all-grain and one extract 
session if we have dinner a little later.

>
>> Small stuff such as caps I pick up at Brewmeister because that is
>> easy to reach via the bike path network in the valley. Always a
>> good excuse for a 40-miler on the old road bike. Their caps are IMO
>> better than the ones from Midwest (harder in the metal).
>>
>> Bottles we saved up enough and cleaned off the labels. Or course,
>> Grolsch flip-tops are my favorites. Yeast isn't a cost factor
>> because I harvest it one to two times for re-pitching. I can always
>> harvest enough for two beers from the trub of a batch. So one $4
>> pack of Safale US-05 can make five 5-gallon batches instead of only
>> one. Haven't dared to go 3rd generation yet.
>
>
> Safale US-05 is good stuff.  From the charts in the Fermentis Tips
> and Tricks, I'm thinking about trying Safbrew BE-256 next.
>

Be careful with BE-256. That is what I used on the Belgian Tripel and it 
went "nuclear". After the first mess (lid of the fermenter came off) I 
placed a blow-off hose and bucket. However, the diameter of the racking 
hose was still not large enough. Lots of evil hissing and roaring plus a 
minor mess, the lid came partially off. Phsssss ... rot-tot-tot ... 
*BURP* .. phseeeee ... POOF .. gurgle. So now I mounted a 1/2" Bulkhead 
connector in the fermenter lid and keep a strudy washing machine hose at 
hand for next time.

>
>> The trub doesn't go to waste either, whether the yeast was
>> harvested from it or not. We turn that into really tasty "trub
>> bread". Always baked over charcoal or wood fire in the Weber
>> kettle. We haven't bought bread since summer last year.
>
>
> Nice!  Trub from post-boil, or trub from fermenting?
>

It's the trub from fermenting. You can't use the hop residue and other 
gunk at the bottom of the boil pot. Also, that contains the carrageenan 
which would probably cause a really funky taste.

>
>>> After brewing my 12th batch, I've come to the conclusion that I'm
>>> not really a beer drinker.  I mostly just give it away to
>>> friends, and I just practice the art.  I made a gallon or so of
>>> Russian Imperial Stout though that my cousin likes.  After
>>> mashing, I made another gallon or so of Honey Blonde Ale from the
>>> leftover sugars in the malt.  I like that ale a lot more.  Owner
>>> of You Brew It said to get Cactus Gold Honey Powder from KP
>>> International for the honey mouthfeel.  In the past, I used
>>> actual honey, which the yeast happily turned into additional
>>> alcohol, with no honey flavor whatsoever...
>>>
>>
>> When I use honey I put it in right at the end of boil, on the
>> advice of someone in a brewing NG. It makes American Wheat which we
>> both aren't partial to really tasty. I am on batch #37 now, not
>> counting the first few runs.
>
>
> I think I did it that way too, but still didn't get much honey flavor
> out of it.  Maybe I'm wrong though; it's been about a year.  Ah well,
> to the lab!  :)
>

To get honey flavor you'd have to add it much later, after cooling off a 
bit. We dont want intense honey flavor though, just a smidgen.

What I do is pour it in after turning off the burners and then I use the 
wort chiller coil to mix it in. The coil needs to walk the pot anyhow 
and I already stick it in during the last few minute of boil (sans 
cooling water) to sanitize it via heat.

>
>> I lucked out and got an old wine cooler from a neighbor for $100.
>> Scrapped out some stuff and reworked the electronics. It can now
>> hold two primary fermenters and three secondaries. Currently
>> holding: A Belgian Saison, a Koelsch, an Autumn Amber Ale, an IPA
>> and a Pale Ale.
>>
>> My all time favorite is Belgian Tripel. It clocks in around 8% ABV
>> so the car keys must be retired for the night.
>
>
> Nice!  I mostly just stick to the higher-temperature ale yeasts, and
> brew during Winter/Spring.
>

I bought and modded the wine fridge so I'd be able to brew year round 
and (almost) all styles. I added a regulated heat mode and a McGyver 
style heater for that, "electronics guys style", can be seen in the 2nd 
link:

http://www.analogconsultants.com/ng/brew/chamber1.JPG
http://www.analogconsultants.com/ng/brew/chamber2.JPG

This way temps do not drop too low during winter months in the basement 
room. Having to run the pellet stove down there just to keep the beer 
happy gets expensive.

If I'd ever do a bock I can use an old Bosch fridge in the basement 
which can hold one fermenter and run that much colder.

-- 
Arriba, abajo, al centro y adentro, ... Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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  Re: OT: slightly longer life Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-05-17 12:13 -0700
    Re: OT: slightly longer life mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2017-05-17 12:41 -0700
      Re: OT: slightly longer life Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-05-17 13:49 -0700
        Re: OT: slightly longer life mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2017-05-17 13:54 -0700
          Re: OT: slightly longer life Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-05-17 14:29 -0700
            Re: OT: slightly longer life mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2017-05-17 15:10 -0700
              Re: OT: slightly longer life Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-05-17 15:42 -0700
                Re: OT: slightly longer life mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2017-05-17 16:05 -0700
                Re: OT: slightly longer life Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-05-17 16:21 -0700
                Re: OT: slightly longer life mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2017-05-17 16:50 -0700
                Re: OT: slightly longer life Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-05-18 07:14 -0700
                Re: OT: slightly longer life mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2017-05-18 08:28 -0700
                Re: OT: slightly longer life Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-05-18 10:33 -0700
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                Re: OT: slightly longer life Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-05-18 10:36 -0700
                Re: OT: slightly longer life mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2017-05-19 08:32 -0700
                Re: OT: slightly longer life Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-05-19 11:17 -0700
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          Re: OT: slightly longer life rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 10:27 -0400
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          Re: slightly longer life "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-20 08:17 +0100
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