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Re: GPS and your predictions

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: GPS and your predictions
Date 2017-05-05 13:08 -0500
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On 5/5/17 10:28 AM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu piątek, 5 maja 2017 16:07:16 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
>> On 5/5/17 1:22 AM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>>> W dniu piątek, 5 maja 2017 00:22:43 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
>>>>>> The agreement between GPS clocks and ground clocks is POST CORRECTION.
>>>>>> The correction has already been made, based on the known physical effect.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you know your idiot guru's definition of
>>>>> time? TIME IS WHAT CLOCKS INDICATE.
>>>>
>>>> Not just any clocks. Clocks calibrated in identical ways.
>>>
>>> Bullshit.
>>
>> No, it's really true. Clocks calibrated in identical ways.
>>
>>> I've already asked - take two identical pendulum clocks
>>> to GPS. Will they indicate 38us of difference?
>>
>> You can't calibrate pendulums identically with one of them in orbit. The
>> pendulum clock will not work at all in orbit.
>>
>>> Have you READ your guru's definition of time? I'll
>>> help you.
>>> http://hermes.ffn.ub.es/luisnavarro/nuevo_maletin/Einstein_1905_relativity.pdf
>>> No "identical clocks". Sorry.

Wozkniak, surely you know that this paper does not represent the sum 
total of special relativity.

>>
>> Don't try to overanalyze by sound bite.

Do not try to overanalyze by sound bite.

>>
>>> And, anyway, as we don't build identical clocks (GPS)
>>> the value of your prophecies about them is - well -
>>> questionable.
>>
>> That's exactly right! The GPS and ground clocks are NOT identically
>> calibrated. Therefore there is no prediction of relativity that is
>> falsified by the GPS clocks, because the prediction of relativity
>> pertains to identically calibrated clocks.
> 
> A lie. Of course.
> http://hermes.ffn.ub.es/luisnavarro/nuevo_maletin/Einstein_1905_relativity.pdf
> No "identical clocks". Sorry.

See above.

>>>>
>>>> Why? I'm happy with the correction they built in.
>>>
>>> Because you want to prove me unsynchronized clocks
>>> are proper, fine and useful, as your idiot guru told
>>> us. Have you forgot?
>>
>> No, I'm not trying to convince you that unsynchronized clocks are proper
>> and useful.
> 
> A progress. And how about your Holy Symmetry?
>> I already gave you one. Suppose you want to design a pendulum clock for
>> operation in a mountain resort.
> 
> And suppose I want it to - confirm an ingenious theory
> of mountain time dilation I invented?

No, seriously. What would you use to design this pendulum?

> 
> Similiarly with you. I admit - when you want simply a
> confirmation of your ingenious Shit - in such case your
> clock can be a good choice.
> 
> 
>>> Well, as for now there is no such purpose:(
>>
>> Oh, but there is. There are other technologies other than GPS you know.
> 
> Such as?
>

What?? You're serious with this question? You believe the only 
technology around is GPS?


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 05:59 -0700
  Re: GPS and your predictions Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-04 15:03 +0200
    Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 06:24 -0700
      Re: GPS and your predictions Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-04 15:37 +0200
        Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 06:43 -0700
  Re: GPS and your predictions Ernest Schillaci <lgunse@nteeqea.gl> - 2017-05-04 13:04 +0000
    Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 06:30 -0700
      Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 10:09 -0500
        Re: GPS and your predictions Ernest Schillaci <lgunse@nteeqea.gl> - 2017-05-04 15:26 +0000
          Re: GPS and your predictions Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 17:53 +0200
            Re: GPS and your predictions Ernest Schillaci <lgunse@nteeqea.gl> - 2017-05-04 16:03 +0000
              Re: GPS and your predictions Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 18:09 +0200
                Re: GPS and your predictions Ernest Schillaci <lgunse@nteeqea.gl> - 2017-05-04 16:19 +0000
                Re: GPS and your predictions Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 18:33 +0200
                Re: GPS and your predictions Ernest Schillaci <lgunse@nteeqea.gl> - 2017-05-04 16:40 +0000
        Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 09:00 -0700
          Re: GPS and your predictions Ernest Schillaci <lgunse@nteeqea.gl> - 2017-05-04 16:11 +0000
          Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 12:11 -0500
            Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 12:20 -0700
              Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 14:45 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 14:50 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 17:22 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 23:22 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 09:07 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 08:28 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 13:08 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 22:09 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 06:11 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-06 08:25 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 14:34 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-06 13:16 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 15:57 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-06 14:04 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 16:07 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-06 14:25 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 13:24 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-07 13:05 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 16:28 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-07 23:23 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-08 13:09 +0000
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-08 06:22 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 08:31 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 08:29 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-08 07:00 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 10:30 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-08 09:27 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 12:03 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-08 10:33 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 15:13 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-08 20:31 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 08:11 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-05 15:15 +0200
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 06:22 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 09:08 -0500
          Re: GPS and your predictions Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-05 00:27 +0200
            Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 23:24 -0700
              Re: GPS and your predictions Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-05 11:58 +0200
        Re: GPS and your predictions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-04 21:23 +0000
      Re: GPS and your predictions Ernest Schillaci <lgunse@nteeqea.gl> - 2017-05-04 15:21 +0000
      Re: GPS and your predictions Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-08 13:36 +0000
  Re: GPS and your predictions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-04 14:58 +0000
    Re: GPS and your predictions Ernest Schillaci <lgunse@nteeqea.gl> - 2017-05-04 15:25 +0000
      Re: GPS and your predictions Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 17:55 +0200
        Re: GPS and your predictions Ernest Schillaci <lgunse@nteeqea.gl> - 2017-05-04 16:07 +0000
    Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 09:03 -0700
      Re: GPS and your predictions Ernest Schillaci <lgunse@nteeqea.gl> - 2017-05-04 16:31 +0000
      Re: GPS and your predictions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-04 21:21 +0000
        Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 15:01 -0700
    Re: GPS and your predictions Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2017-05-04 22:24 +0200
      Re: GPS and your predictions Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 22:35 +0200
        Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 14:59 -0700
        Re: GPS and your predictions "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-05 21:04 +0100
          Re: GPS and your predictions Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-05-05 13:27 -0700
            Re: GPS and your predictions "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-05 23:15 +0100
              Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 17:22 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 00:58 +0200
                Re: GPS and your predictions Prijzen Sörözésekre <ouwu@wueidewliiut.te> - 2017-05-05 23:09 +0000
                Re: GPS and your predictions Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 01:23 +0200
                Re: GPS and your predictions Prijzen Sörözésekre <ouwu@wueidewliiut.te> - 2017-05-05 23:35 +0000
              Re: GPS and your predictions Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-05-05 15:44 -0700
              Re: GPS and your predictions Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 00:54 +0200
                Re: GPS and your predictions Prijzen Sörözésekre <ouwu@wueidewliiut.te> - 2017-05-05 23:05 +0000
              Re: GPS and your predictions Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-08 12:25 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-08 10:35 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-08 20:34 +0000
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-08 20:35 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-09 16:45 +0000
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-09 10:25 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-09 10:03 +0200
            Re: GPS and your predictions Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2017-05-06 06:37 +0200
              Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 22:23 -0700
              Re: GPS and your predictions Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 09:17 +0200
                Re: GPS and your predictions Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 18:18 +0000
                Re: GPS and your predictions pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 20:41 -0700
            Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 22:20 -0700
          Re: GPS and your predictions Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 00:07 +0200
            Re: GPS and your predictions Prijzen Sörözésekre <ouwu@wueidewliiut.te> - 2017-05-05 22:17 +0000
            Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 22:21 -0700
            Re: GPS and your predictions "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-06 08:01 +0100
              Re: GPS and your predictions Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 09:39 +0200
      Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 16:32 -0500
        Re: GPS and your predictions Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2017-05-05 10:15 +0200
          Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 01:52 -0700
            Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 09:00 -0500
              Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 08:15 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 13:10 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 22:14 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 06:14 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-06 08:34 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 14:38 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-06 13:30 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 16:00 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-06 14:12 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 13:25 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-07 13:09 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 16:31 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-07 23:28 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 08:32 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-08 07:13 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 10:24 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-08 09:21 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 12:00 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-08 10:28 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-06 23:51 +0100
          Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 08:26 -0500
            Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 08:13 -0700
              Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 13:13 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 22:18 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 14:15 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-06 12:33 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 14:50 -0500
                Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-06 13:35 -0700
                Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 16:01 -0500
      Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 14:52 -0700
  Re: GPS and your predictions Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-05-05 07:43 -0700
    Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 08:17 -0700
      Re: GPS and your predictions Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-05-05 09:21 -0700
        Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 09:49 -0700
          Re: GPS and your predictions Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-05-05 10:22 -0700
    Re: GPS and your predictions Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-05-06 11:51 -0700

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