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| From | Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.arch.embedded |
| Subject | Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start |
| Date | 2017-03-25 11:01 -0700 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <ob6b4d$8nk$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 3/25/2017 10:55 AM, Les Cargill wrote: > Don Y wrote: >> On 3/24/2017 7:41 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2017-03-23, pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I'd like to start learning the modern paradigm of IoT and Cloud. >>> >>> IoT: >>> >>> Take a bunch of small devices with no need for internet access. >>> Add >> >> IoT doesn't require access to The Internet. Remember, *an* internet >> just refers to them being able to talk (i.e., to each other). > > It's generally clearer to refer to "an inTRAnet". The Internet is AN internet. What you call an intranet is likewise. Would you say IoT was an acronym for Intranet-of-Things? *And* Internet-of-Things? (i.e., the important aspect is that the devices are internetworked, not that they can talk to The Internet. >> As to whether they *need* that ability... that depends on the >> functionality you want to give them. Does your automobile *need* a >> radio? heater? etc.? > > IoT is largely "control things with your phone". That doesn't > necessarily mean using the larger Internet but it's semi-implied that > it does. Somewhere around the third person who uses it will expect > that. No, that's just how it is currently marketed. How do you "control" your refrigerator with your phone? It may, however, monitor what you've placed in and removed from it. Or, let you visually examine its contents without opening the door. But, none of that requires The Internet. Or, a phone. I pretty much have more IoT kit, here, than most homes in the country. Yet, I don't rely on The Internet for *any* of it! (OTOH, I can access and control most of it using a voice channel via the PSTN) > <snip> >>>> My first impression is that they are "empty words" without a >>>> precise meaning: you can fill the "word" as you want. > > Yep.
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Cloud? IoT? How to start pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 12:04 +0100
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Randy Day <randy.day@sasktel.netx> - 2017-03-23 07:41 -0600
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2017-03-24 12:04 +0000
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 15:35 -0400
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-03-25 20:10 +0000
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-25 15:23 -0500
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-25 20:28 +0000
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-03-25 22:20 +0200
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-25 19:34 -0700
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-03-26 07:49 +0100
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-26 01:20 -0700
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-03-26 09:17 +0100
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-26 02:47 -0700
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2017-03-26 12:46 +0100
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-26 11:31 -0700
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-03-26 21:29 +0100
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-26 16:08 -0700
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 09:21 +0200
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-24 14:41 +0000
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-24 11:29 -0700
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2017-03-24 23:03 -0400
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start "tim..." <tims_new_home@yahoo.com> - 2017-03-25 09:16 +0000
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-25 10:39 -0700
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2017-03-26 05:31 -0400
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-26 03:36 -0700
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2017-03-27 00:22 +0000
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-03-27 16:53 +0100
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2017-03-27 18:45 +0000
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-03-27 15:21 -0500
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2017-03-28 17:59 +0000
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-03-28 15:01 -0500
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 00:09 -0400
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2017-04-05 11:58 +0300
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-25 12:55 -0500
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-25 11:01 -0700
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-25 15:25 -0500
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-25 19:36 -0700
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-03-24 18:29 +0000
Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start "Robert Lacoste" <see-alciom-dot-com@none.com> - 2017-03-29 13:33 +0200
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