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Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start

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On 2017-03-27, Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 18:45:09 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley
><clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote:
>
>>On 2017-03-27, Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/01/16/tesla-driver-stranded-desert-smartphone-app-failure/
>>>
>>
>>Unbelievable. :-(
>>
>>That's a failure on so many levels, starting with Tesla for designing
>>such a fragile system without any obvious backups and ending with the
>>driver who never thought of this.
>
>
> But this *was* the backup system.  The primary system was the key fob.
> This let you drive you car in most cases even if you forgot to
> actually take you car keys with you.
>

Oh, I see, thanks. I wonder if the driver knew that a usable signal was
required for his mobile phone and I wonder if Tesla made that explicit
in their manuals and user training. (Not everyone would think to ask
these types of questions unprompted.)

>
> Tesla's failure was in not realizing that a backup system might become
> the primary system, because users are creative like that.  That error
> has bitten many designers - "we don't have to actually monitor X,
> because the emergency limit sensor will shut it down when it goes too
> far", "we don't have to handle the gun safely, the safety is on", "I
> don't have to check the coolant level every day, because the backup
> cooling system will kick in if the primary system runs low", "I can
> take safety #1 and #2 off, because safety #3 is still there".

Perhaps it might be better if we all just went back to using physical
keys instead. :-)

Thanks for taking the time to do the above writeup.

Simon.

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Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
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