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Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start

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On 3/25/2017 1:20 PM, upsidedown@downunder.com wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 12:04:31 -0000, Paul
> <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> In article <ob09tq$qj2$1@dont-email.me>, pozzugno@gmail.com says...
>>>
>>> I'd like to start learning the modern paradigm of IoT and Cloud.  My
>>> first impression is that they are "empty words" without a precise
>>> meaning: you can fill the "word" as you want.
>>>
>>> I want to start from a real simple application.
>>> I have some Internet-connected embedded boards that I want to control by
>>> remote with my smartphone connected to Internet.
>>
>> Before you go ANY further read this short article and think about
>> security first
>
> Over here Siemens is advertising their household appliances by the
> remote control features :-)

I think the problem with IoT is that vendors are JUST pitching it
as "remote control".  IMO, there's very little "value added" for most
devices if you just allow the user to control it from a distant location.

(Do you really need to control your washing machine, dishwasher, irrigation
system, coffee maker, etc. from afar?)

But, the real "value added" requires a fair bit more development effort
and "selling"/marketing.

E.g., instead of letting me monitor video from my home via an (insecure! :> )
web app at some remote location, why not have some "smarts" in the
cloud service whereby *it* is monitoring the video and alerting
me to motion detected in the frame?  Instead of letting me turn on
the water for my rose bushes (but NOT the cactus) from my office, why
not make note of the weather in my neighborhood and decide that their
transpirational losses are likely to be excessively high, today, and
turn the water on *for* me?

I.e., provide intelligent AGENTS instead of just a glorified DynDNS service.

> After all, the Stuxnet exploit was first used on Siemens systems :-)

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Cloud? IoT? How to start pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 12:04 +0100
  Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Randy Day <randy.day@sasktel.netx> - 2017-03-23 07:41 -0600
  Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2017-03-24 12:04 +0000
    Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 15:35 -0400
      Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-03-25 20:10 +0000
      Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-25 15:23 -0500
      Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-25 20:28 +0000
    Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-03-25 22:20 +0200
      Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-25 19:34 -0700
      Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-03-26 07:49 +0100
        Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-26 01:20 -0700
          Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-03-26 09:17 +0100
            Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-26 02:47 -0700
              Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2017-03-26 12:46 +0100
                Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-26 11:31 -0700
                Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-03-26 21:29 +0100
                Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-26 16:08 -0700
        Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 09:21 +0200
  Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-24 14:41 +0000
    Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-24 11:29 -0700
      Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2017-03-24 23:03 -0400
        Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start "tim..." <tims_new_home@yahoo.com> - 2017-03-25 09:16 +0000
        Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-25 10:39 -0700
          Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2017-03-26 05:31 -0400
            Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-26 03:36 -0700
            Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2017-03-27 00:22 +0000
              Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-03-27 16:53 +0100
                Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2017-03-27 18:45 +0000
                Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-03-27 15:21 -0500
                Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2017-03-28 17:59 +0000
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                Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 00:09 -0400
                Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2017-04-05 11:58 +0300
      Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-25 12:55 -0500
        Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-25 11:01 -0700
          Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-25 15:25 -0500
            Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-25 19:36 -0700
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