Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start

From	Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.arch.embedded
Subject	Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start
Date	2017-03-25 10:39 -0700
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On 3/24/2017 8:03 PM, George Neuner wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 11:29:59 -0700, Don Y
> <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Does your automobile *need* a radio?  heater?  etc.?
>
> Many cars *do* need the radio ... to perform ignition key/fob code
> verification.  Pull the stereo in the new car and see if it still
> starts 8-).

I'm not sure *where* the hardware and software functionality for
the fob-related features resides (haven't purchased a workshop manual,
yet; I've been forbidden from tinkering with it until the warranty
expires!  :> ).

I know there are near-field sensors in each of the driver/passenger
doors (approximately) as it will only unlock the corresponding door
if *a* fob is sensed in its proximity (I think 37 inches?) as the handle
is touched.  I assume the same driver-side fob-sensor is used to enable
the ignition.  I.e., with both of us in the front seat, roughly equidistant
from the START button and each carrying a fob, it recognizes which of us
is actually *in* the driver's seat and selects that driver's profile
(seat position, mirror settings, GPS/phone/stereo settings, etc.)

Likewise, rear hatch won't raise unless a fob similarly detected, there.

"Remote" function will work over reasonably long distances (a block
or so?).

And, "dead battery fallback" only operates within an inch or two of
the START button.

Don't know if the Sirius "upgrade" is a hardware upgrade, software
upgrade or just a bit that enables a feature.  Of course, AM/FM
require a real radio.

GPS obviously does, as well.  As does the "concierge" service (or
whatever it is called). And, the BT link to the phone.  Hard to imagine
*all* of those using a shared set of hardware.

(E.g., I'd imagine there's more than just an "antenna" in each door
sensor; easier to ship a packet of digital data to something that
decides whether or not to unlock the doors)

> For many autos, an after-market stereo upgrade has to leave the old
> unit connected, powered, and buried in the dash because removing it
> disables the vehicle.

On earlier vintage of this model, the radio/stereo could be *replaced*.
Lots of online docs about locating the "code" to enable the radio's
functionality (anti-theft).  You'd think that if it disabled the car
from starting, the questions would be ""I removed my stereo and now
my car won't start..."

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Cloud? IoT? How to start pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 12:04 +0100
  Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Randy Day <randy.day@sasktel.netx> - 2017-03-23 07:41 -0600
  Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2017-03-24 12:04 +0000
    Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 15:35 -0400
      Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-03-25 20:10 +0000
      Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-25 15:23 -0500
      Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-25 20:28 +0000
    Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-03-25 22:20 +0200
      Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-25 19:34 -0700
      Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-03-26 07:49 +0100
        Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-26 01:20 -0700
          Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-03-26 09:17 +0100
            Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-26 02:47 -0700
              Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2017-03-26 12:46 +0100
                Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-26 11:31 -0700
                Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-03-26 21:29 +0100
                Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-26 16:08 -0700
        Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 09:21 +0200
  Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-24 14:41 +0000
    Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-24 11:29 -0700
      Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2017-03-24 23:03 -0400
        Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start "tim..." <tims_new_home@yahoo.com> - 2017-03-25 09:16 +0000
        Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-25 10:39 -0700
          Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2017-03-26 05:31 -0400
            Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-26 03:36 -0700
            Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2017-03-27 00:22 +0000
              Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-03-27 16:53 +0100
                Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2017-03-27 18:45 +0000
                Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-03-27 15:21 -0500
                Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2017-03-28 17:59 +0000
                Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-03-28 15:01 -0500
                Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 00:09 -0400
                Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2017-04-05 11:58 +0300
      Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-25 12:55 -0500
        Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-25 11:01 -0700
          Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-25 15:25 -0500
            Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-03-25 19:36 -0700
  Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-03-24 18:29 +0000
  Re: Cloud? IoT? How to start "Robert Lacoste" <see-alciom-dot-com@none.com> - 2017-03-29 13:33 +0200

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