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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
| Subject | Re: Childhood's End |
| Message-ID | <oILGzB.vs0@kithrup.com> (permalink) |
| Date | 2016-12-22 16:11 +0000 |
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| Organization | Kithrup Enterprises, Ld. |
In article <81d3ec16-3a75-45a1-bc83-5f4801960550@googlegroups.com>, Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: >On Thursday, December 22, 2016 at 9:20:21 AM UTC-5, Quadibloc wrote: >> On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 3:13:07 PM UTC-7, mimus99 wrote: >> >> > I still rate _ Candy _ (1968) as the greatest SF flick of all time. >> >> That wasn't science-fiction! It was a religious movie; she was clearly an >> avatar! Something like Jesus, or Buddha, or at least an angel. >> >> However, that just indicates the dangers of classifying movies - or >novels - by >> their initial premise. Thus, one really *should* shelve the Pern novels, in a >> book store, under fantasy instead of science fiction, because of *the type of >> reader they will entertain*, instead of under science fiction on a strictly >> technical criterion. >> > >That presupposes a bookstore that actually separates SF from F. >An SF/F specialty shop might do so, but the national chain I >worked for never did. Neither did the local independent chain >I worked for, which dedicated much less floor space to SF/F. Uh-huh. If you put two related categories together, you get the guys who say "What is all this stupid fantasy doing in with the Science Fiction?" or even "What is all this soft-and-squishy SF doing in with the hardcore SF?" Or, less often the other way around. If, on the other hand, you separate them out, you get the guys who say "I found _The Antimatter Chronicles_ over *here*, but _The Unicorn Mantra_ by the same author is over *here*, why the hell?" and you say "Well, one is SF and one is fantasy," and they say, "Well, that's stupid! Why don't you shelve all of $Author's work *together*?" It all comes under the heading of "You can't please everybody, and sometimes you can't please anybody." > >Edge cases are always hard to file. Putting them where the >customer expects to see them has its merits. Yes, exceot that if you file to please one customer you'll piss off the next customer, see above. -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com
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Re: Childhood's End mimus99 <mimus99@gmail.com> - 2016-12-21 17:13 -0500
Re: Childhood's End Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-22 06:20 -0800
Re: Childhood's End djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-22 14:41 +0000
Re: Childhood's End Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-22 17:53 +0000
Re: Childhood's End Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-12-25 01:06 -0700
Re: Childhood's End Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-25 17:49 +0000
Re: Childhood's End Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-23 12:31 -0800
Re: Childhood's End David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-12-25 07:40 -0600
Re: Childhood's End Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-22 06:57 -0800
Re: Childhood's End djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-22 16:11 +0000
Re: Childhood's End news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2016-12-22 19:11 +0000
Re: Childhood's End wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-23 11:57 -0500
Re: Childhood's End Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 12:17 -0700
Re: Childhood's End djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-22 21:21 +0000
Re: Childhood's End Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 14:04 -0700
Re: Childhood's End David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-12-25 07:44 -0600
Re: Childhood's End Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-22 21:52 -0800
Re: Childhood's End David Harmon <source@netcom.com> - 2016-12-25 09:30 -0800
Re: Childhood's End djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-25 20:48 +0000
Re: Childhood's End "John F. Eldredge" <john@jfeldredge.com> - 2017-01-04 18:08 +0000
Re: Childhood's End ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2017-01-04 18:50 +0000
Re: Childhood's End Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 10:29 -0700
Re: Childhood's End Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2016-12-22 14:34 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 15:02 -0700
Re: Childhood's End djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-22 23:28 +0000
Re: Childhood's End Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 16:29 -0700
Re: Childhood's End djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-23 01:24 +0000
Re: Childhood's End Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 20:11 -0700
Re: Childhood's End Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-12-23 01:05 -0500
Re: Childhood's End Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 22:23 -0700
Re: Childhood's End Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 10:09 -0600
Re: Childhood's End djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-23 16:50 +0000
Re: Childhood's End Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-23 09:07 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 09:20 -0700
Re: Childhood's End tsbrueni@gmail.com - 2016-12-31 20:40 -0800
Re: Childhood's End David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-01-01 09:24 -0600
Re: Childhood's End tsbrueni@gmail.com - 2017-01-02 12:38 -0800
Re: Childhood's End wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-23 12:08 -0500
Re: Childhood's End Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 09:22 -0700
Re: Childhood's End "John F. Eldredge" <john@jfeldredge.com> - 2016-12-23 19:17 +0000
Re: Childhood's End Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-23 12:31 -0800
Re: Childhood's End wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-23 12:03 -0500
Re: Childhood's End Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 09:23 -0700
Re: Childhood's End Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-23 09:45 -0800
Re: Childhood's End djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-24 04:32 +0000
Re: Childhood's End Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-12-25 01:13 -0700
Re: Childhood's End djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-25 15:03 +0000
Re: Childhood's End Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-25 08:02 -0800
Re: Childhood's End djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-25 20:51 +0000
Re: Childhood's End David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-22 11:31 -0700
Re: Childhood's End Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-23 12:29 -0800
Re: Childhood's End David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-23 14:23 -0700
Re: Childhood's End Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-12-23 15:40 -0800
Re: Childhood's End "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-12-24 09:09 -0500
Re: Childhood's End David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-24 07:33 -0700
Re: Childhood's End "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-12-24 11:01 -0500
Re: Childhood's End Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-24 08:56 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2016-12-24 17:01 +0000
Re: Childhood's End Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-24 10:11 -0800
Re: Childhood's End David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-26 11:20 -0700
Re: Childhood's End Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-12-26 14:06 -0800
Re: Childhood's End David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-26 16:00 -0700
Re: Childhood's End Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-26 22:36 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-27 16:08 +0200
Re: Childhood's End Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-12-27 12:06 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-27 13:05 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-12-27 18:32 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-27 19:42 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-12-27 21:21 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-28 08:28 -0800
Re: Childhood's End David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-01-01 09:15 -0600
Re: Childhood's End Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-28 12:32 +0200
Re: Childhood's End David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-27 13:23 -0700
Re: Childhood's End wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-27 23:02 -0500
Re: Childhood's End David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-27 21:08 -0700
Re: Childhood's End Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-27 13:17 -0800
Re: Childhood's End wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-27 23:00 -0500
Re: Childhood's End David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-27 21:39 -0700
Re: Childhood's End Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 08:14 +0100
Re: Childhood's End David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-28 00:56 -0700
Re: Childhood's End "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 08:52 -0500
Re: Childhood's End Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-29 04:41 -0800
Re: Childhood's End "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-29 08:16 -0500
Re: Childhood's End wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-29 13:12 -0500
Re: Childhood's End Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-29 10:25 -0700
Re: Childhood's End wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-28 17:40 -0500
Re: Childhood's End Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-12-28 14:45 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-12-28 21:30 -0800
Re: Childhood's End wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-29 13:52 -0500
Re: Childhood's End Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-12-29 12:54 -0800
Re: Childhood's End wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-28 18:11 -0500
Re: Childhood's End David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-01-01 09:16 -0600
Re: Childhood's End Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2017-01-01 09:56 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-12-28 21:33 -0800
Re: Childhood's End "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-29 00:42 -0500
Re: Childhood's End Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-12-29 09:46 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-30 09:42 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-12-30 12:48 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-30 13:14 -0700
Re: Childhood's End Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2016-12-29 08:20 +0000
Re: Childhood's End wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-29 07:31 -0500
Re: Childhood's End Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-29 05:49 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2016-12-29 14:47 +0000
Re: Childhood's End Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-12-29 09:55 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2016-12-29 12:13 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2016-12-29 20:37 +0000
Re: Childhood's End wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-30 14:55 -0500
Re: Childhood's End Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2016-12-31 10:12 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-01-01 19:31 +0000
Re: Childhood's End Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2017-01-02 10:22 -0800
Re: Childhood's End David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-01-03 21:59 -0600
Re: Childhood's End tsbrueni@gmail.com - 2017-01-03 21:33 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2017-01-03 22:13 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2017-01-04 00:46 -0800
Re: Childhood's End David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-04 02:02 -0700
Re: Childhood's End hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2017-01-04 02:39 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2017-01-04 11:29 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2017-01-06 20:42 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2017-01-07 00:01 -0500
Re: Childhood's End Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2017-01-07 10:57 -0800
Re: Childhood's End ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2017-01-07 19:08 +0000
Re: Childhood's End Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2017-01-07 15:46 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2017-01-07 05:53 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-01-07 20:43 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-01-01 12:17 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2017-01-02 13:20 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-12-29 09:49 -0800
Re: Childhood's End Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2016-12-29 20:41 +0000
Re: Childhood's End David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-29 12:26 -0700
Re: Childhood's End Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-12-30 12:50 -0800
Re: Childhood's End David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-01-01 09:21 -0600
Re: Childhood's End Chrysi Cat <chrysicat@gmail.com> - 2017-01-01 12:31 -0700
Re: Childhood's End David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-28 16:11 -0700
Re: Childhood's End wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-28 18:34 -0500
Re: Childhood's End David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-28 23:40 -0700
Re: Childhood's End wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-29 07:41 -0500
Re: Childhood's End David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-29 12:27 -0700
Re: Childhood's End Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-12-29 12:55 -0800
Re: Childhood's End wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-30 15:03 -0500
Re: Childhood's End David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-30 14:35 -0700
Re: Childhood's End wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-31 13:24 -0500
Re: Childhood's End wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-24 13:08 -0500
Re: Childhood's End Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2016-12-24 18:52 +0000
Re: Childhood's End wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-24 14:03 -0500
Re: Childhood's End djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-24 21:37 +0000
Re: Childhood's End Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-24 17:02 -0800
Re: Childhood's End "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 20:20 -0500
Re: Childhood's End wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-25 16:50 -0500
Re: Childhood's End djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-25 23:00 +0000
Re: Childhood's End David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-25 17:00 -0700
Re: Childhood's End "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-25 19:06 -0500
Re: Childhood's End wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-25 22:37 -0500
Re: Childhood's End djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-25 02:37 +0000
Re: Childhood's End "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 21:58 -0500
Re: Childhood's End Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-24 20:07 -0800
Re: Childhood's End djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-25 06:18 +0000
Re: Childhood's End Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-12-24 21:53 -0800
Re: Childhood's End wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-25 16:52 -0500
Re: Childhood's End djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-25 23:04 +0000
Re: Childhood's End "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-25 19:01 -0500
Re: Childhood's End wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-25 23:15 -0500
Re: Childhood's End djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-26 04:22 +0000
Re: Childhood's End Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-12-25 22:03 -0800
Re: Childhood's End djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-26 07:01 +0000
Re: Childhood's End Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-12-26 11:39 -0800
Re: Childhood's End djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-26 22:09 +0000
Re: Childhood's End wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-27 23:03 -0500
Re: Childhood's End "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-12-24 14:43 -0500
Re: Childhood's End djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-24 21:36 +0000
Re: Childhood's End Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-12-24 14:34 -0800
Re: Childhood's End David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-24 15:43 -0700
Re: Childhood's End "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 20:18 -0500
Re: Childhood's End Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2016-12-24 09:48 +0000
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