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Re: eForth specific words?

From Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: eForth specific words?
Date 2017-03-01 14:34 -0600
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 3/1/2017 1:12 PM, JUERGEN wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 4:27:43 PM UTC, Cecil - k5nwa wrote:
>> On 3/1/2017 9:42 AM, Cecil Bayona wrote:
>>> On 3/1/2017 5:13 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 4:47:27 AM UTC, Cecil - k5nwa wrote:
>>>>> On 2/27/2017 3:10 PM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 5:15:49 PM UTC, Cecil - k5nwa wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/27/2017 4:49 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 6:04:34 AM UTC, Michael Barry wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, February 26, 2017 at 5:57:53 PM UTC-8,
>>>>>>>>> hughag...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I gave up on eForth due to the lack of documentation. AFAIK, it
>>>>>>>>>> is a good
>>>>>>>>>> Forth system, but I don't have time to figure this stuff out
>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>> experimentation.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Good luck! If you obtain any documentation, send it to me in
>>>>>>>>>> private
>>>>>>>>>> email. All I have is what I downloaded from the offete website,
>>>>>>>>>> but it
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't really tell me anything --- there is no reference document
>>>>>>>>>> describing what all the words do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://filescdn.com/af4f2d7tc76z/jsgsa.Zen.and.the.Forth.Language.EFORTH.for.the.MSP430.from.Texas.Instruments.pdf
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know that Ray Duncan didn't have a very high opinion of Dr. Ting's
>>>>>>>>>  literature, but I find him to be entertaining and charming, in an
>>>>>>>>>  eccentric sort of way.  Although it is probably politically
>>>>>>>>> incorrect
>>>>>>>>>  to say so, I found it helpful to read along in my head with a
>>>>>>>>> Chinese
>>>>>>>>>  accent. :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mike B.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Michael Barry, I have just reported you to Kindle / amazon for
>>>>>>>> copyright violation. And will let them do their work.
>>>>>>>> You ripped my eBook and are republishing it for free.
>>>>>>>> Even if you have not done this yourself you are still violating
>>>>>>>> copyright as you know it very well and you are still distributing it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Copyright is quite clearly stated in the first lines of what you
>>>>>>>> published here in full knowledge of what you are distributing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And I assume that Ting is not very happy about it either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://filescdn.com/af4f2d7tc76z/jsgsa.Zen.and.the.Forth.Language.EFORTH.for.the.MSP430.from.Texas.Instruments.pdf
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I might consider seperate legal steps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I bought the book so I already have a copy but I thought it was
>>>>>>> something new but the site is extremely suspicious, asking to install
>>>>>>> software to download a PDF file, locking you in the web page so you
>>>>>>> can't exit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for publishing these books from Dr. Ting for very low cost, but
>>>>>>> apparently that is not good enough for some.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Cecil - k5nwa
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cecil, the PDF DISCUSSED HERE IS the rip-off of the ebook you
>>>>>> kindly  bought from the Forth Bookshelf at
>>>>>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Juergen-Pintaske/e/B00N8HVEZM  ,  as you
>>>>>> can see when you just compare the text on the first page - with are
>>>>>> some lines of what I posted from the rip-off - even with my name on
>>>>>> it of the one I formatted and published.
>>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone is interested I looked up on Google on the subject of removing
>>>>> DRM from Kindle files, I found quite a few detailed articles and several
>>>>> software applications.
>>>>>
>>>>> I downloaded one because it could do bulk removal of DRM, I pointed it
>>>>> to my Kindle repository on my PC and it removed protection from about
>>>>> 60% of the books in a matter of a few seconds including the four books I
>>>>> bought from you at Amazon.
>>>>>
>>>>> That was the first attempt, there are other plugins for example to be
>>>>> used with Calibre and it removes DRM copy protection and converts the
>>>>> file to quite a few formats.
>>>>>
>>>>> Moral of the story Amazon copy protection is only is an inconvenience to
>>>>> legitimate owners, but dishonest persons can easily remove copy
>>>>> protection and distribute the copyrighted material.
>>>>>
>>>>> Makes one not want to be an author because it's so easy to steal ones
>>>>> hard work.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cecil - k5nwa
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Cecil,
>>>>
>>>> If I get pissed off enough I will just remove the whole Bookshelf - I
>>>> have it in different versions anyway. Thanks for making me aware that
>>>> you have joined the Forth Killer league.
>>>>
>>> Are you mad at me? I always pay for my stuff, I' just wanted to see how
>>> easy it was to break DRM on Kindles. It demonstrated that DRM is a joke
>>> and it only is an inconvenienced to the honest the dishonest are not
>>> even slowed down by DRM. As I explained before I bought the Zen book and
>>> even though the book had links to download the software for free I paid
>>> Dr. Ting for a copy, I'm not trying to rip off anyone, on the contrary
>>> I'm going out of my way to support the Forth industry. I don't know if
>>> you noticed but I did not name the software that was used to test DRM to
>>> give lazy people ideas.
>>>
>>> The real culprit here besides the crooks is Amazon who make people such
>>> as myself who has spent $1000s of dollars on eBooks worry all the time
>>> about the books becoming useless at a future date because of Amazon
>>> shenanigans.
>>>
>>
>> I guess he is, I just got unfriended on Facebook, makes you wonder about
>> people, reacting without reading my comment to see that I was not
>> advocating stealing of eBooks but the contrary.
>>
>> Life goes on.
>>
>> --
>> Cecil - k5nwa
>
> Sorry Cecil, if you want to show your intelligence by teaching the whole community how to open the difficult lock - even if it is your own lock as example - you are just plain silly as you do not grasp what you are doing. Showing others how to to start criminal activity.
>
> Please do not buy any further of my eBooks - you are definitely not part of my target community.
>
Interesting, what software did I used, what was the procedure? You would 
not know because I didn't spell it out. You don't think people know the 
stuff is out there in the Internet?

If it makes you feel better by being mad, so be it, your choice, 
obviously it's becoming apparent to me that it's no great loss if that 
how you react.

Bye....

-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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    Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-26 23:15 -0600
    Re: eForth specific words? Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-26 22:04 -0800
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                Re: eForth specific words? "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-02 15:37 +1100
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                Re: eForth specific words? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 21:57 -0800
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                Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 14:19 -0500
                Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-03-01 14:34 -0600
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                Re: eForth specific words? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 11:29 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-03-01 14:54 -0600
                Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 18:00 -0500
              Re: eForth specific words? albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-03-01 13:33 +0100
                Re: eForth specific words? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 06:19 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 14:17 -0500
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        Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 14:21 -0500
      Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-27 11:08 -0600
        Re: eForth specific words? Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-27 09:17 -0800
          Re: eForth specific words? Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-27 09:38 -0800
          Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-27 12:34 -0600
            Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 14:23 -0500
              Re: eForth specific words? Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-27 11:49 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 15:14 -0500
                Re: eForth specific words? Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-27 12:39 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-27 15:04 -0600
                Re: eForth specific words? Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-27 14:31 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 17:44 -0500
        Re: eForth specific words? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-27 23:11 -0800
          Re: eForth specific words? JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-02-27 23:22 -0800
            Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-28 01:26 -0600
              Re: eForth specific words? JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-02-28 00:58 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-28 10:24 -0600
          Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-28 01:25 -0600
            Re: eForth specific words? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-28 03:44 -0800
              Re: eForth specific words? JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-02-28 09:56 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-28 14:16 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 20:03 -0500
              Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-28 12:12 -0600
                Re: eForth specific words? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-28 14:19 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-28 16:49 -0600
                Re: eForth specific words? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-28 15:07 -0800
      Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 14:19 -0500
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    Re: eForth specific words? Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-26 20:15 -0800
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    Re: eForth specific words? David Schultz <abuse@127.0.0.1> - 2017-02-26 20:33 -0600
      Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 22:18 -0500
  Re: eForth specific words? JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-02-27 03:19 -0800
    Re: eForth specific words? Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-27 08:08 -0800
  Re: eForth specific words? "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-02-28 19:30 +1100
  Re: eForth specific words? jacko <jackokring@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 11:43 -0800
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