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Re: eForth specific words?

From rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: eForth specific words?
Date 2017-03-01 14:19 -0500
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 3/1/2017 2:12 PM, JUERGEN wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 4:27:43 PM UTC, Cecil - k5nwa wrote:
>> On 3/1/2017 9:42 AM, Cecil Bayona wrote:
>>> On 3/1/2017 5:13 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 4:47:27 AM UTC, Cecil - k5nwa wrote:
>>>>> On 2/27/2017 3:10 PM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 5:15:49 PM UTC, Cecil - k5nwa wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/27/2017 4:49 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 6:04:34 AM UTC, Michael Barry wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, February 26, 2017 at 5:57:53 PM UTC-8,
>>>>>>>>> hughag...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I gave up on eForth due to the lack of documentation. AFAIK, it
>>>>>>>>>> is a good
>>>>>>>>>> Forth system, but I don't have time to figure this stuff out
>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>> experimentation.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Good luck! If you obtain any documentation, send it to me in
>>>>>>>>>> private
>>>>>>>>>> email. All I have is what I downloaded from the offete website,
>>>>>>>>>> but it
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't really tell me anything --- there is no reference document
>>>>>>>>>> describing what all the words do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://filescdn.com/af4f2d7tc76z/jsgsa.Zen.and.the.Forth.Language.EFORTH.for.the.MSP430.from.Texas.Instruments.pdf
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know that Ray Duncan didn't have a very high opinion of Dr. Ting's
>>>>>>>>>  literature, but I find him to be entertaining and charming, in an
>>>>>>>>>  eccentric sort of way.  Although it is probably politically
>>>>>>>>> incorrect
>>>>>>>>>  to say so, I found it helpful to read along in my head with a
>>>>>>>>> Chinese
>>>>>>>>>  accent. :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mike B.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Michael Barry, I have just reported you to Kindle / amazon for
>>>>>>>> copyright violation. And will let them do their work.
>>>>>>>> You ripped my eBook and are republishing it for free.
>>>>>>>> Even if you have not done this yourself you are still violating
>>>>>>>> copyright as you know it very well and you are still distributing it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Copyright is quite clearly stated in the first lines of what you
>>>>>>>> published here in full knowledge of what you are distributing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And I assume that Ting is not very happy about it either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://filescdn.com/af4f2d7tc76z/jsgsa.Zen.and.the.Forth.Language.EFORTH.for.the.MSP430.from.Texas.Instruments.pdf
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I might consider seperate legal steps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I bought the book so I already have a copy but I thought it was
>>>>>>> something new but the site is extremely suspicious, asking to install
>>>>>>> software to download a PDF file, locking you in the web page so you
>>>>>>> can't exit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for publishing these books from Dr. Ting for very low cost, but
>>>>>>> apparently that is not good enough for some.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Cecil - k5nwa
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cecil, the PDF DISCUSSED HERE IS the rip-off of the ebook you
>>>>>> kindly  bought from the Forth Bookshelf at
>>>>>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Juergen-Pintaske/e/B00N8HVEZM  ,  as you
>>>>>> can see when you just compare the text on the first page - with are
>>>>>> some lines of what I posted from the rip-off - even with my name on
>>>>>> it of the one I formatted and published.
>>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone is interested I looked up on Google on the subject of removing
>>>>> DRM from Kindle files, I found quite a few detailed articles and several
>>>>> software applications.
>>>>>
>>>>> I downloaded one because it could do bulk removal of DRM, I pointed it
>>>>> to my Kindle repository on my PC and it removed protection from about
>>>>> 60% of the books in a matter of a few seconds including the four books I
>>>>> bought from you at Amazon.
>>>>>
>>>>> That was the first attempt, there are other plugins for example to be
>>>>> used with Calibre and it removes DRM copy protection and converts the
>>>>> file to quite a few formats.
>>>>>
>>>>> Moral of the story Amazon copy protection is only is an inconvenience to
>>>>> legitimate owners, but dishonest persons can easily remove copy
>>>>> protection and distribute the copyrighted material.
>>>>>
>>>>> Makes one not want to be an author because it's so easy to steal ones
>>>>> hard work.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cecil - k5nwa
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Cecil,
>>>>
>>>> If I get pissed off enough I will just remove the whole Bookshelf - I
>>>> have it in different versions anyway. Thanks for making me aware that
>>>> you have joined the Forth Killer league.
>>>>
>>> Are you mad at me? I always pay for my stuff, I' just wanted to see how
>>> easy it was to break DRM on Kindles. It demonstrated that DRM is a joke
>>> and it only is an inconvenienced to the honest the dishonest are not
>>> even slowed down by DRM. As I explained before I bought the Zen book and
>>> even though the book had links to download the software for free I paid
>>> Dr. Ting for a copy, I'm not trying to rip off anyone, on the contrary
>>> I'm going out of my way to support the Forth industry. I don't know if
>>> you noticed but I did not name the software that was used to test DRM to
>>> give lazy people ideas.
>>>
>>> The real culprit here besides the crooks is Amazon who make people such
>>> as myself who has spent $1000s of dollars on eBooks worry all the time
>>> about the books becoming useless at a future date because of Amazon
>>> shenanigans.
>>>
>>
>> I guess he is, I just got unfriended on Facebook, makes you wonder about
>> people, reacting without reading my comment to see that I was not
>> advocating stealing of eBooks but the contrary.
>>
>> Life goes on.
>>
>> --
>> Cecil - k5nwa
>
> Sorry Cecil, if you want to show your intelligence by teaching the whole community how to open the difficult lock - even if it is your own lock as example - you are just plain silly as you do not grasp what you are doing. Showing others how to to start criminal activity.
>
> Please do not buy any further of my eBooks - you are definitely not part of my target community.

Not that I was inclined to buy DRM protected works anyway, but I 
certainly won't be buying anything you have published.  You need to 
learn how to treat your customers.

-- 

Rick C

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eForth specific words? Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-26 14:20 -0800
  Re: eForth specific words? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-02-26 17:57 -0800
    Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-26 23:15 -0600
    Re: eForth specific words? Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-26 22:04 -0800
      Re: eForth specific words? JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-02-27 02:49 -0800
        Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-27 11:15 -0600
          Re: eForth specific words? JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-02-27 13:10 -0800
            Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-27 16:51 -0600
            Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-28 22:47 -0600
              Re: eForth specific words? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-28 21:15 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 01:08 -0500
                Re: eForth specific words? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-28 23:21 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-03-01 03:22 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 13:45 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 15:42 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? Jan Coombs <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com> - 2017-03-11 14:33 +0000
                Re: eForth specific words? JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-03-11 11:06 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? Jan Coombs <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com> - 2017-03-12 09:58 +0000
                Re: eForth specific words? JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-03-12 03:42 -0700
                Re: eForth specific words? "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-02 15:37 +1100
                Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-02 00:40 -0500
                Re: eForth specific words? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 21:57 -0800
              Re: eForth specific words? JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-03-01 03:13 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 03:29 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-03-01 10:49 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 14:13 -0500
                Re: eForth specific words? Jan Coombs <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com> - 2017-03-11 12:39 +0000
                Re: eForth specific words? pbro <peter040@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-11 13:09 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? Jan Coombs <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com> - 2017-03-12 10:22 +0000
                Re: eForth specific words? JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-03-12 03:57 -0700
                Re: eForth specific words? Jan Coombs <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com> - 2017-03-12 15:03 +0000
                Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-03-01 09:42 -0600
                Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-03-01 10:27 -0600
                Re: eForth specific words? JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-03-01 11:12 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 14:19 -0500
                Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-03-01 14:34 -0600
                Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 14:16 -0500
                Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 14:08 -0500
                Re: eForth specific words? JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-03-01 11:22 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 11:29 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-03-01 14:54 -0600
                Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 18:00 -0500
              Re: eForth specific words? albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-03-01 13:33 +0100
                Re: eForth specific words? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 06:19 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 14:17 -0500
                Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-03-01 09:54 -0600
        Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 14:21 -0500
      Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-27 11:08 -0600
        Re: eForth specific words? Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-27 09:17 -0800
          Re: eForth specific words? Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-27 09:38 -0800
          Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-27 12:34 -0600
            Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 14:23 -0500
              Re: eForth specific words? Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-27 11:49 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 15:14 -0500
                Re: eForth specific words? Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-27 12:39 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-27 15:04 -0600
                Re: eForth specific words? Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-27 14:31 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 17:44 -0500
        Re: eForth specific words? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-27 23:11 -0800
          Re: eForth specific words? JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-02-27 23:22 -0800
            Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-28 01:26 -0600
              Re: eForth specific words? JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-02-28 00:58 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-28 10:24 -0600
          Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-28 01:25 -0600
            Re: eForth specific words? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-28 03:44 -0800
              Re: eForth specific words? JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-02-28 09:56 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-28 14:16 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 20:03 -0500
              Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-28 12:12 -0600
                Re: eForth specific words? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-28 14:19 -0800
                Re: eForth specific words? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-28 16:49 -0600
                Re: eForth specific words? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-28 15:07 -0800
      Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 14:19 -0500
  Re: eForth specific words? David Schultz <abuse@127.0.0.1> - 2017-02-26 20:15 -0600
    Re: eForth specific words? Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-26 20:15 -0800
  Re: eForth specific words? Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 18:20 -0800
    Re: eForth specific words? David Schultz <abuse@127.0.0.1> - 2017-02-26 20:33 -0600
      Re: eForth specific words? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 22:18 -0500
  Re: eForth specific words? JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-02-27 03:19 -0800
    Re: eForth specific words? Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-27 08:08 -0800
  Re: eForth specific words? "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-02-28 19:30 +1100
  Re: eForth specific words? jacko <jackokring@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 11:43 -0800
    Re: eForth specific words? jacko <jackokring@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 12:16 -0800

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