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Re: Preprocessor Overheads

From Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Preprocessor Overheads
Date 2017-02-04 00:47 +0000
Organization Fix this later
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On 04/02/17 00:38, supercat@casperkitty.com wrote:
> On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 4:47:28 PM UTC-6, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> On 03/02/17 22:16, supercat wrote:
>>> On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 2:51:49 PM UTC-6, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>>> On 03/02/17 20:23, supercat wrote:
>>>>> The qsort() function accepts an argument of type "void*".  If the purpose
>>>>> of void* were as you say, that would imply that if I take the address of
>>>>> the first element of a "struct foo[]", convert it to void* and pass that
>>>>> to qsort(), the function would need to somehow convert the pointer back
>>>>> to a "struct foo*" before it could do anything else with it.
>>>>
>>>> No, it can pass it unmodified to another function (and in fact that's
>>>> precisely what it /does/ do).
>>>
>>> Oh really?
>>
>> Yes.
>
> The supplied comparator function accepts two pointers of type void*.  If
> the qsort function merely passes the original pointer unmodified (rather
> than, say, converting it to a char*, adding the offset to the desired
> element, and then converting that back to a void*), how is the comparator
> function supposed to know which parts of the array are supposed to be
> compared?

Oh yes, of course. Pointer arithmetic. It can do this because of the 
explicit guarantee in 6.3.2.3(7), which I already discussed. In fact, I 
already mentioned this in the following paragraph:

>>>> The qsort function does one other thing with the pointer - it uses the
>>>> result of the comparator function call to determine whether stuff needs
>>>> to be swapped around. If so, it either converts the void * to an
>>>> unsigned char * (which is specifically permitted by the Standard) or,
>>>> which amounts to the same thing, passes the void * to a function that
>>>> can do the swapping on its behalf.

See?

>>> So it doesn't just pass it to a function that knows the original type, nor
>>> convert the pointer to its original type.  It relies upon the fact that a
>>> pointer to an object of any type can be converted to void* and then to
>>> char*, yielding the same result as if the original pointer had been converted
>>> directly to char*.
>>
>> The Standard says (in 6.3.2.3(1)):
>>
>> A pointer to void may be converted to or from a pointer to any object
>> type. A pointer to any object type may be converted to a pointer to void
>> and back again; the result shall compare equal to the original pointer.
>>
>> It further says (in 6.3.2.3(7)):
>>
>> When a pointer to an object is converted to a pointer to a character
>> type, the result points to the lowest addressed byte of the object.
>> Successive increments of the result, up to the size of the object, yield
>> pointers to the remaining bytes of the object.
>
> The Standard fails to explicitly mandate all of the behaviors that would be
> necessary to make void* useful.

Not convinced.

> Whether that is a "defect" would depend upon
> whether any compiler writers would exploit such omissions either for reasons
> of optimization or obtuseness.
>
> Many useful kinds of code can only work if converting a pointer to void*
> and then to char* yields a pointer to the first character of the original
> object.

6.3.2.3(1) guarantees it.

>>> Is the behavior of qsort() described as acting upon bytes within arbitrary
>>> blocks of memory, or as acting upon items within an array?
>>
>> Can you show me a strictly conforming program that can tell the
>> difference? A pointer to a single object may be legitimately considered
>> to be a pointer to the first and only element in an array of one object,
>> and an array for which one lacks type information can (as long as you
>> know the size, which qsort does) be considered an arbitrary block of memory.
>
> The terminology used in the Standard's definition of qsort suggests that
> the "base" is a pointer to an array of objects of arbitrary type.  While
> it might *also* be regarded as a pointer to a region of bytes, the fact
> that the Standard uses the former terminology would suggest that it can
> hardly be called "wrong".

Neither explanation is wrong, because as far as C is concerned they're 
isomorphic.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
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                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-04 21:08 +0000
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                Re: Preprocessor Overheads supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-02-04 14:26 -0800
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-04 23:27 +0000
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-05 00:18 +0000
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                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-05 11:01 +0000
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-02-05 04:04 -0800
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                Re: Preprocessor Overheads supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-02-05 09:01 -0800
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-05 20:53 +0000
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                Re: Preprocessor Overheads supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-02-05 15:23 -0800
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-02-05 15:40 -0800
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                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-02-09 09:27 -0800
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                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-02-03 01:02 -0800
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                Re: Preprocessor Overheads David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-03 11:25 +0100
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-02-03 04:26 -0800
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-03 12:36 +0000
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-02-03 04:59 -0800
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-03 13:09 +0000
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-02-03 05:24 -0800
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-03 13:41 +0000
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-02-03 08:29 -0800
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-03 17:00 +0000
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-02-03 09:24 -0800
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-03 18:31 +0000
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-02-06 10:55 +0000
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-02-06 03:02 -0800
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 19:55 +0000
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-03 20:11 +0000
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-03 17:30 +0000
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                Re: Preprocessor Overheads raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-02-06 10:53 +0000
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                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-02-06 05:59 -0800
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-06 14:12 +0000
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                Re: Preprocessor Overheads David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-06 15:22 +0100
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-06 15:27 +0000
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-02-06 15:10 +0000
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                Re: Preprocessor Overheads David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-03 21:17 +0100
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-03 20:20 +0000
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                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-03 21:03 +0000
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                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-02-04 10:04 -0800
            Re: Preprocessor Overheads Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-02-02 12:46 -0800
              Re: Preprocessor Overheads supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-02-02 14:12 -0800
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-02-02 15:21 -0800
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-02-02 16:02 -0800
                Re: Preprocessor Overheads Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-02-02 16:13 -0800
        Re: Preprocessor Overheads Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-02-02 14:16 -0800
          Re: Preprocessor Overheads Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-02-03 05:03 -0800
            Re: Preprocessor Overheads Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-03 16:41 -0600
              Re: Preprocessor Overheads Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-02-03 16:15 -0800
            Re: Preprocessor Overheads Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-02-04 10:13 -0800

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