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Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received.

From David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written
Subject Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received.
Date 2016-12-13 15:49 -0700
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 12/13/2016 1:57 PM, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
> On 12/13/16 3:05 PM, David Johnston wrote:
>> On 12/13/2016 12:19 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>> In article <994f5302-9a5d-42a5-9944-f46d6623a1d9@googlegroups.com>,
>>> Peter Trei  <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This gizmo has been done several times. The best is possibly 'I See
>>>> You' by
>>>> Damon Knight (1976).
>>>
>>> Is that the one whose punchline is "Take a GOOD look!" ?
>>>
>>>  There's also Asimov's 'The Dead Past' (1956).
>>>
>>> Whose punchline is "Happy goldfish bowl to you, to me, and to
>>> everybody, and may you all roast in hell forever."
>>
>> I kind of suspect that "I See You" was a response to The Dead Past.
>>
>> The Dead Past, Childhood's End, and Triple Detente are all on my list of
>> stories where I'm pretty sure my reaction wasn't what the author
>> intended.
>
>     So you had a POSITIVE reaction to the setup at the end of The Dead
> Past,

Actually my reaction to "The Dead Past" was more "Meh.  We'll get used 
to it.".  Note, incidentally that the unhappy ending is "the public gets 
access to it".  The government already had it and were using it for 
domestic espionage.  The only privacy the public had was "the government 
isn't interested in you.  Yet."

and, if I get you right, a negative reaction to the setup at the
> end of Childhood's End?

Humanity just all got eaten.  And a perfectly good planet and all the 
life on it with them.  Eventually the Overmind will eat all potential 
for life in the galaxy.

>
>     We're heading for The Dead Past right now and I'm not happy about it.
>
>
>

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      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 11:01 -0800
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 19:19 +0000
          The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-13 13:05 -0700
            Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-12-13 15:57 -0500
              Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 21:57 +0000
                Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-13 15:28 -0800
                Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 23:38 +0000
                Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-13 16:23 -0800
                Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-14 01:35 +0000
                Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-12-14 00:05 -0800
              Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-13 15:49 -0700
                Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-12-13 16:54 -0800
                Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-12-13 20:13 -0500
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                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 22:08 +0000
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-13 18:02 -0800
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              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 13:51 -0800
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-13 13:56 -0800
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 22:04 +0000
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-12-13 22:37 +0000
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 23:42 +0000
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                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-14 01:38 +0000
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 22:00 +0000
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-12-13 21:10 -0600
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-13 13:41 -0800
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