Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It

From	Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net>
Newsgroups	rec.arts.sf.written
Subject	Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It
Date	2016-12-12 20:54 +0000
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 12/12/2016 1:00 PM, Anthony Nance wrote:
>> Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>>>> In article <20161210a@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz  <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:f6633721-3875-473e-bb57-5f5fca9d00dd@googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   How much SF has been written about how The World Will End in X Time
>>>>>>>>   And There's Nothing We Can Do About It, and the public knows it? The
>>>>>>>>   standard trope is "We can't let this go public or there will be
>>>>>>>>   widespread panic", but there must be some in which it *has* gotten
>>>>>>>>   out and various people deal with that certainty in various ways. I
>>>>>>>>   can think of a few but I don't want to constrain anyone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   What I don't mean is "weak" dystopian stuff like _FROOMB_ which
>>>>>>>>   presents a sort of pervasive sense that things are turning to shit,
>>>>>>>>   I mean the Vogons have made their announcement or we can see the
>>>>>>>>   asteroid coming or whatever.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   I was inspired to ask by this video:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqIt93dDG1M
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TL;DNW: a professor emeritus from the University of Arizona says it's
>>>>>>>> Game Over, that humanity has less than ten years before we go extinct.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>> <some snippage>
>>
>>> In yet another permutation of a tangent on the OP's request,
>>> _Slaughterhouse-Five_ (Vonnegut) reveals the end of the world to one
>>> man. He faces it in a Zen-like manner.
>>>
>>>         "We know how the Universe ends," said the guide, "and Earth
>>>     has nothing to do with it, except that it gets wiped out, too."
>>>         "How-how does the Universe end?" said Billy.
>>>         "We blow it up, experimenting with new fuels for our
>>>     flying saucers. A Tralfamadorian test pilot presses a starter
>>>     button, and the whole Universe disappears." So it goes.
>>>         "If You know this," said Billy, "isn"t there some way you
>>>     can prevent it? Can"t you keep the pilot from pressing the
>>>     button?"
>>>         "He has always pressed it, and he always will. We always
>>>     let him and we always will let him. The moment is structured
>>>     that way."
>>>         "So," said Billy gropingly, I suppose that the idea of,
>>>     preventing war on Earth is stupid, too."
>>>         "Of course."
>>
>>
>> Speaking of Vonnegut, would Cat's Cradle fit?  Though it was
>> mostly off-stage, it seems to me the world knew it was coming
>> and could do nothing about it.
>>
>> ACC's Childhood's End feels like it doesn't fit, but I'll mention
>> it for other people's consideration.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>
> It is a situation where after a certain point humanity knows that it is
> facing inevitable extinction and react with predictable despair.  It fits.

If _Cat's Cradle_ fits, there's also "The Catalyst" (Yohe).

Thank you,

--
Don Kuenz KB7RPU

Trust not one night's ice. - Herbert

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Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 11:32 -0800
  Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 13:44 -0600
    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-10 20:57 +0000
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-10 21:45 +0000
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-11 03:12 +0000
          Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-11 04:15 +0000
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-11 17:39 -0500
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2016-12-12 20:00 +0000
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2016-12-12 20:00 +0000
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-12 13:14 -0700
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-12 20:54 +0000
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-12 16:10 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-12 16:29 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-12 20:41 -0700
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2016-12-12 19:46 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2016-12-13 04:14 +0000
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-12-13 06:48 -0600
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 05:12 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-13 05:18 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 14:23 +0000
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-12-13 21:00 -0600
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-13 19:33 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-01-27 15:35 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Chrysi Cat <chrysicat@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 04:09 -0700
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-02-01 03:02 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-13 12:16 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-13 03:57 -0800
          Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-11 04:48 +0000
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2016-12-11 00:25 -0800
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-11 13:39 +0000
          Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-12-11 17:45 -0800
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-12 14:16 -0500
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-12-12 23:22 -0800
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-12 15:40 -0800
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-11 10:49 -0800
          Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-11 22:33 +0000
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-11 17:20 -0500
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-11 17:07 -0800
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-11 17:31 -0500
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-12 04:24 +0000
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-12-12 04:26 -0700
    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2016-12-10 21:23 +0000
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 19:04 -0500
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 18:24 -0600
          Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 19:29 -0500
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-12-12 04:32 -0700
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-12 06:51 -0500
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-12-12 12:55 -0500
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-12-12 13:00 -0500
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-12-12 18:05 +0000
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-12-12 12:07 -0800
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-12 12:26 -0800
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-12-11 09:29 -0600
    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-12-12 20:50 -0600
  Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-10 20:36 +0000
    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 19:03 -0500
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-11 00:48 +0000
  Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-10 14:23 -0700
    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 19:12 -0500
    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-12-10 19:18 -0500
  Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-12-10 22:48 +0000
  Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 16:46 -0800
    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 17:15 -0800
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    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-12 15:48 -0800
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 03:21 +0000
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      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 11:01 -0800
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 19:19 +0000
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          Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 13:02 -0800
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-12-13 21:11 +0000
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-13 13:48 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 22:08 +0000
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-13 18:02 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2017-01-27 18:00 -0500
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 13:51 -0800
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-13 13:56 -0800
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 22:04 +0000
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-12-13 22:37 +0000
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 23:42 +0000
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 19:07 -0500
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-14 01:38 +0000
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 22:00 +0000
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-12-13 21:10 -0600
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-13 13:41 -0800
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-12-13 22:22 -0700
  Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 16:32 -0600

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