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Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It

From David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written
Subject Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It
Date 2016-12-12 20:41 -0700
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On 12/12/2016 5:10 PM, Kevrob wrote:
> On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 3:55:54 PM UTC-5, Don Kuenz wrote:
>> David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On 12/12/2016 1:00 PM, Anthony Nance wrote:
>>>> Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <20161210a@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz  <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:f6633721-3875-473e-bb57-5f5fca9d00dd@googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   How much SF has been written about how The World Will End in X Time
>>>>>>>>>>   And There's Nothing We Can Do About It, and the public knows it? The
>>>>>>>>>>   standard trope is "We can't let this go public or there will be
>>>>>>>>>>   widespread panic", but there must be some in which it *has* gotten
>>>>>>>>>>   out and various people deal with that certainty in various ways. I
>>>>>>>>>>   can think of a few but I don't want to constrain anyone.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   What I don't mean is "weak" dystopian stuff like _FROOMB_ which
>>>>>>>>>>   presents a sort of pervasive sense that things are turning to shit,
>>>>>>>>>>   I mean the Vogons have made their announcement or we can see the
>>>>>>>>>>   asteroid coming or whatever.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   I was inspired to ask by this video:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqIt93dDG1M
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> TL;DNW: a professor emeritus from the University of Arizona says it's
>>>>>>>>>> Game Over, that humanity has less than ten years before we go extinct.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <some snippage>
>>>>
>>>>> In yet another permutation of a tangent on the OP's request,
>>>>> _Slaughterhouse-Five_ (Vonnegut) reveals the end of the world to one
>>>>> man. He faces it in a Zen-like manner.
>>>>>
>>>>>         "We know how the Universe ends," said the guide, "and Earth
>>>>>     has nothing to do with it, except that it gets wiped out, too."
>>>>>         "How-how does the Universe end?" said Billy.
>>>>>         "We blow it up, experimenting with new fuels for our
>>>>>     flying saucers. A Tralfamadorian test pilot presses a starter
>>>>>     button, and the whole Universe disappears." So it goes.
>>>>>         "If You know this," said Billy, "isn"t there some way you
>>>>>     can prevent it? Can"t you keep the pilot from pressing the
>>>>>     button?"
>>>>>         "He has always pressed it, and he always will. We always
>>>>>     let him and we always will let him. The moment is structured
>>>>>     that way."
>>>>>         "So," said Billy gropingly, I suppose that the idea of,
>>>>>     preventing war on Earth is stupid, too."
>>>>>         "Of course."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Speaking of Vonnegut, would Cat's Cradle fit?  Though it was
>>>> mostly off-stage, it seems to me the world knew it was coming
>>>> and could do nothing about it.
>>>>
>>>> ACC's Childhood's End feels like it doesn't fit, but I'll mention
>>>> it for other people's consideration.
>>>>
>>>> Tony
>>>>
>>>
>>> It is a situation where after a certain point humanity knows that it is
>>> facing inevitable extinction and react with predictable despair.  It fits.
>>
>> If _Cat's Cradle_ fits, there's also "The Catalyst" (Yohe).
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>
> "When Worlds Collide" by Wylie and Balmer, and the sequel, "After Worlds
> Collide" spawned the film, which I caught just about every time it was
> shown on NY area TV when I was a kid.  But the first "Earth's going to
> get smacked by an asteroid and we are all doomed" story I remember
> encountering was, perhaps, the best and most sfnal episode of "The
> Adventures of Superman" on TV - "Panic In The Sky!"
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0506583/?ref_=ttpl_pl_tt
>
> In short, the Man of Tomorrow only partially succeeds in deflecting
> a rogue asteroid.  It winds up in an unstable orbit around Terra,
> and our favorite Kryptonian immigrant winds up with a case of temporary
> amnesia, from some combination of the terrific impact with which
> he smacked the wandering rock, or exposure to unknown elements on it,
> possibly Kryptonite. The TV show never used "red kryptonite," and if
> this ep had been in color, like some of the later ones, it would have
> been a good idea to import that from the comics.

Except that the comics only started to use Red Kryptonite 6 years after 
that episode.  The Kryptonite rainbow was Silver Age wackiness.

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Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 11:32 -0800
  Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 13:44 -0600
    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-10 20:57 +0000
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-10 21:45 +0000
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-11 03:12 +0000
          Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-11 04:15 +0000
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-11 17:39 -0500
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2016-12-12 20:00 +0000
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2016-12-12 20:00 +0000
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-12 13:14 -0700
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-12 20:54 +0000
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-12 16:10 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-12 16:29 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-12 20:41 -0700
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2016-12-12 19:46 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2016-12-13 04:14 +0000
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-12-13 06:48 -0600
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 05:12 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-13 05:18 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 14:23 +0000
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-12-13 21:00 -0600
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-13 19:33 -0800
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                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-02-01 03:02 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-13 12:16 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-13 03:57 -0800
          Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-11 04:48 +0000
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2016-12-11 00:25 -0800
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-11 13:39 +0000
          Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-12-11 17:45 -0800
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-12 14:16 -0500
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-12-12 23:22 -0800
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        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-11 10:49 -0800
          Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-11 22:33 +0000
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-11 17:20 -0500
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-11 17:07 -0800
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-11 17:31 -0500
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-12 04:24 +0000
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-12-12 04:26 -0700
    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2016-12-10 21:23 +0000
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        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 18:24 -0600
          Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 19:29 -0500
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-12-12 04:32 -0700
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-12 06:51 -0500
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                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-12-12 13:00 -0500
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-12-12 18:05 +0000
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-12-12 12:07 -0800
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-12 12:26 -0800
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-12-11 09:29 -0600
    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-12-12 20:50 -0600
  Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-10 20:36 +0000
    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 19:03 -0500
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-11 00:48 +0000
  Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-10 14:23 -0700
    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 19:12 -0500
    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-12-10 19:18 -0500
  Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-12-10 22:48 +0000
  Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 16:46 -0800
    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 17:15 -0800
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    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-12 15:48 -0800
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 03:21 +0000
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It eichlerSPAMBGONE2@comcastsucksbecausetheydontsupportuse.net (Bice) - 2016-12-13 22:12 +0000
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      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 11:01 -0800
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 19:19 +0000
          The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-13 13:05 -0700
            Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-12-13 15:57 -0500
              Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 21:57 +0000
                Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-13 15:28 -0800
                Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 23:38 +0000
                Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-13 16:23 -0800
                Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-14 01:35 +0000
                Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-12-14 00:05 -0800
              Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-13 15:49 -0700
                Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-12-13 16:54 -0800
                Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-12-13 20:13 -0500
          Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 13:02 -0800
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              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-13 13:48 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 22:08 +0000
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-13 18:02 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2017-01-27 18:00 -0500
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 13:51 -0800
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-13 13:56 -0800
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 22:04 +0000
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-12-13 22:37 +0000
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 23:42 +0000
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 19:07 -0500
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-14 01:38 +0000
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 22:00 +0000
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-12-13 21:10 -0600
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-13 13:41 -0800
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-12-13 22:22 -0700
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