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Re: I was wrong

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: I was wrong
Date 2016-09-19 09:13 -0500
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On 9/16/2016 8:02 PM, Peter Riedt wrote:

>
> The books present a general method but do not provide actual examples of a
> solution.

In elementary texts, there are lots of worked problems with numerical 
answers. This is so that students get lots of practice working formulas 
without mistakes and to proper precision, skills you have not acquired 
or practiced. In more advanced books, the method and the algebra are 
shown, but numerical calculations are often left unsaid, because by the 
time readers get to those books, they are much better practiced at doing 
them.

> Secondly they use esoteric maths not understood by anybody even
> the author.

Esoteric is in the eye of the beholder. It's esoteric to you because you 
don't know anything more advanced than +,-,*,/ and exponents. It's 
simply not true that the calculations are not understood by the author.

> Roberts: "To calculate with GR maths one needs to write a master's
> thesis".

You may be aware, Peter, that most people who do calculations with GR 
have PhDs, so requiring a master's degree is not an issue.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-07 19:40 -0700
  Re: I was wrong Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-09-08 13:10 +1000
    Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-07 20:57 -0700
      Re: I was wrong Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-09-08 14:02 +1000
        Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 00:22 -0700
          Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 02:06 -0700
            Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 02:58 -0700
              Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 03:48 -0700
                Re: I was wrong John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-08 20:16 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 21:05 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 06:48 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 07:18 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 07:22 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 21:16 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 23:08 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 09:00 +0200
              Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:13 +0200
              Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 11:36 -0500
          Re: I was wrong Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-09-08 20:15 +1000
          Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 11:35 -0500
          Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 23:10 +0200
            Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 21:20 -0700
              Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 06:44 +0200
      Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 07:11 +0200
        Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 10:43 -0700
          Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 20:12 +0200
  Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 07:08 +0200
    Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 03:05 -0700
      Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 04:14 -0700
        Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 04:27 -0700
        Re: I was wrong RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-14 10:10 -0700
      Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:17 +0200
      Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 11:45 -0500
        Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 10:30 -0700
          Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 12:58 -0500
            Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 11:34 -0700
              Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:37 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 11:40 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:42 -0500
    Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 10:54 -0700
      Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 12:59 -0500
        Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 11:12 -0700
          Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:33 -0500
            Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 11:38 -0700
              Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 14:27 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 21:21 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 07:23 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-09 20:20 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 07:45 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 17:26 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-09 21:20 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 07:48 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 03:16 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-10 16:43 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 21:06 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-10 22:01 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 23:18 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-11 00:40 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 10:09 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-11 03:41 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 12:50 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 17:47 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 17:51 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-11 17:55 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 20:03 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 17:37 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 08:21 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-10 02:03 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 23:56 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 11:18 +0200
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                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-11 17:40 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 07:59 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 17:45 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 07:55 +0200
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                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 17:40 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-11 17:50 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 20:01 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-11 21:26 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 07:33 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-12 15:39 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 20:25 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-12 18:51 -0700
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                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-13 01:28 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 11:31 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-13 22:04 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 00:21 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-14 01:00 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 11:32 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-14 01:25 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 13:00 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-14 16:56 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 19:42 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 01:28 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 01:37 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 10:33 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 21:07 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 07:36 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 08:51 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 12:24 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 11:32 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-16 21:37 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 09:20 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-19 11:10 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 11:50 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-19 16:47 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 17:58 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 08:37 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-20 17:45 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 07:19 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 22:12 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 09:22 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 01:45 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 11:15 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 02:42 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 12:38 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 19:39 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 10:34 +0200
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                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 12:10 +0200
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                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 04:24 -0700
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                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-16 18:12 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 05:27 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-17 18:37 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 21:06 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-17 22:58 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 23:31 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-18 03:03 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 04:17 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 08:14 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 11:37 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-19 11:26 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 11:46 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-19 18:04 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 18:25 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-19 19:05 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 20:23 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-20 00:02 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 09:15 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 15:04 +0200
                Re: I was wrong mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-16 06:12 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 10:27 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 19:37 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 10:31 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-16 02:09 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 12:30 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-16 18:18 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 07:38 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-16 18:02 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 09:13 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 07:32 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-16 18:08 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 09:14 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 07:39 +0200
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  Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 11:30 -0500

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