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Re: I was wrong

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: I was wrong
Date 2016-09-08 14:02 +1000
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On 8/09/2016 1:57 PM, Peter Riedt wrote:
> On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 11:10:39 AM UTC+8, Sylvia Else wrote:
>
>> If one knows a and t one body in orbit about a primary, then one can
>> infer either from the other for any other body in orbit about the same
>> primary. This is because knowing a and t allows one to calculate the
>> constant of proportionality in Kepler's third law.
>
> I need only a or t for a free fall object around the sun to calculate the other and v.

This is because you've already determined the constant of 
proportionality based on one of the planets.

>>
>> The value of v always varies along an orbit unless the orbit is
>> circular, so calculating v always involves knowledge of the eccentricity.
>>
> The average v can be calculated with knowing eccentricity.
>

You can get a number.

The average velocity is the distance travelled divided by the time.

Since the time is not a function of the eccentricity, but distance 
travelled is, you cannot get the average velocity without knowing the 
eccentricity.

Sylvia.

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I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-07 19:40 -0700
  Re: I was wrong Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-09-08 13:10 +1000
    Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-07 20:57 -0700
      Re: I was wrong Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-09-08 14:02 +1000
        Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 00:22 -0700
          Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 02:06 -0700
            Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 02:58 -0700
              Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 03:48 -0700
                Re: I was wrong John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-08 20:16 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 21:05 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 06:48 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 07:18 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 07:22 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 21:16 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 23:08 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 09:00 +0200
              Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:13 +0200
              Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 11:36 -0500
          Re: I was wrong Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-09-08 20:15 +1000
          Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 11:35 -0500
          Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 23:10 +0200
            Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 21:20 -0700
              Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 06:44 +0200
      Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 07:11 +0200
        Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 10:43 -0700
          Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 20:12 +0200
  Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 07:08 +0200
    Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 03:05 -0700
      Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 04:14 -0700
        Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 04:27 -0700
        Re: I was wrong RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-14 10:10 -0700
      Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:17 +0200
      Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 11:45 -0500
        Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 10:30 -0700
          Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 12:58 -0500
            Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 11:34 -0700
              Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:37 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 11:40 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:42 -0500
    Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 10:54 -0700
      Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 12:59 -0500
        Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 11:12 -0700
          Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:33 -0500
            Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 11:38 -0700
              Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 14:27 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 21:21 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 07:23 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-09 20:20 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 07:45 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 17:26 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-09 21:20 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 07:48 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 03:16 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-10 16:43 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 21:06 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-10 22:01 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 23:18 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-11 00:40 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 10:09 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-11 03:41 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 12:50 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 17:47 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 17:51 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-11 17:55 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 20:03 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 17:37 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 08:21 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-10 02:03 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 23:56 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 11:18 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-11 03:42 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 12:52 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-11 05:49 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 10:06 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-11 17:40 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 07:59 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 17:45 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 07:55 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 03:11 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 17:40 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-11 17:50 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 20:01 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-11 21:26 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 07:33 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-12 15:39 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 20:25 -0500
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                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-13 01:28 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 11:31 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-13 22:04 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 00:21 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-14 01:00 -0700
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                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-14 01:25 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 13:00 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-14 16:56 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 19:42 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 01:28 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 01:37 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 10:33 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 21:07 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 07:36 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 08:51 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 12:24 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 11:32 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-16 21:37 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 09:20 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-19 11:10 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 11:50 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-19 16:47 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 17:58 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 08:37 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-20 17:45 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 07:19 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 22:12 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 09:22 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 01:45 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 11:15 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 02:42 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 12:38 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 19:39 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 10:34 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-16 02:14 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 12:10 +0200
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                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-16 18:12 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 05:27 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-17 18:37 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 21:06 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-17 22:58 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 23:31 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-18 03:03 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 04:17 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 08:14 -0500
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                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-19 11:26 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 11:46 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-19 18:04 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 18:25 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-19 19:05 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 20:23 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-20 00:02 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 09:15 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 15:04 +0200
                Re: I was wrong mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-16 06:12 -0700
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                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 19:37 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 10:31 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-16 02:09 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 12:30 +0200
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-16 18:18 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 07:38 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-16 18:02 -0700
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 09:13 -0500
                Re: I was wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 07:32 -0500
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                Re: I was wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 07:39 +0200
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