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Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors

From Serigo <invalid@invalid.com>
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Subject Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors
Date 2016-09-18 11:17 -0500
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On 9/18/2016 3:55 AM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
> On Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 6:47:02 PM UTC-7, Michael
> Strickland wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 23:20:18 -0500, Serigo <invalid@invalid.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The electrostatic potential gradient between the Earth and the
>>> Ionosphere is about 100Vm-1 near the surface in summer, rising to
>>>  300Vm-1 in winter. It is well known that electrostatic motors
>>> can be driven by the atmospheric electric field indefinitely from
>>> an appropriate antenna and earth connection.

>
> The deal-breaker is the miniscule power available. Kilovolts, but the
> total amount of current passing from the ionosphere to the surface is
> less than two thousand amps. The current that through a square meter
> parallel to Earth's surface is about ten *pico*amps.
>
> http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_09.html
>
> That means you need a large antenna to get even detectable current,
> let alone enough to do useful work.
>
> It's doable, but not feasible. How many acres of land can you afford
> to cover with a copper mesh roof a thousand feet high?
>
>


copper would corrode, but you could use copper coated steel wire like 
the old telegraph lines. that was tough stuff, and went a span of 200' (?)

Actually the mesh could be sparce, put up towers 100' tall 100' apart 
and connect the tops with that telegraph wire.  Im thinking of the old 
rule of tower protects at a 45 degree angle the stuff below it from 
lightning strikes.

But you would have to watch the high voltage insulation of the wires 
from the towers, at 100 v/foot, 100 feet => 10,000 volts so tripple 
that, as when a cloud comes over the E Field goes up a lot.

still not much power, but detectable, as a cloud detector yes, pre 
lightning detector yes, etc. google Field Meters, interesting area.



> Mark L. Fergerson
>

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E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-16 23:20 -0500
  Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2016-09-17 21:46 -0400
    Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-17 22:34 -0500
    Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 01:55 -0700
      Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-18 11:17 -0500
        Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-18 11:31 -0500
        Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 18:05 +0000
          Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 11:47 -0700
            Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 19:37 +0000
              Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-18 14:59 -0500
                Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 20:36 +0000
                Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-18 16:01 -0500
                Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 23:33 +0000
                Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 12:20 -0700

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