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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors |
| Date | 2016-09-18 11:17 -0500 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <nrmenj$16nu$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink) |
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On 9/18/2016 3:55 AM, nuny@bid.nes wrote: > On Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 6:47:02 PM UTC-7, Michael > Strickland wrote: >> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 23:20:18 -0500, Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> >> wrote: >> >>> The electrostatic potential gradient between the Earth and the >>> Ionosphere is about 100Vm-1 near the surface in summer, rising to >>> 300Vm-1 in winter. It is well known that electrostatic motors >>> can be driven by the atmospheric electric field indefinitely from >>> an appropriate antenna and earth connection. > > The deal-breaker is the miniscule power available. Kilovolts, but the > total amount of current passing from the ionosphere to the surface is > less than two thousand amps. The current that through a square meter > parallel to Earth's surface is about ten *pico*amps. > > http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_09.html > > That means you need a large antenna to get even detectable current, > let alone enough to do useful work. > > It's doable, but not feasible. How many acres of land can you afford > to cover with a copper mesh roof a thousand feet high? > > copper would corrode, but you could use copper coated steel wire like the old telegraph lines. that was tough stuff, and went a span of 200' (?) Actually the mesh could be sparce, put up towers 100' tall 100' apart and connect the tops with that telegraph wire. Im thinking of the old rule of tower protects at a 45 degree angle the stuff below it from lightning strikes. But you would have to watch the high voltage insulation of the wires from the towers, at 100 v/foot, 100 feet => 10,000 volts so tripple that, as when a cloud comes over the E Field goes up a lot. still not much power, but detectable, as a cloud detector yes, pre lightning detector yes, etc. google Field Meters, interesting area. > Mark L. Fergerson >
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E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-16 23:20 -0500
Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2016-09-17 21:46 -0400
Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-17 22:34 -0500
Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 01:55 -0700
Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-18 11:17 -0500
Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-18 11:31 -0500
Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 18:05 +0000
Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 11:47 -0700
Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 19:37 +0000
Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-18 14:59 -0500
Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 20:36 +0000
Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-18 16:01 -0500
Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 23:33 +0000
Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 12:20 -0700
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