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Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors

From jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
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Subject Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors
Date 2016-09-18 18:05 +0000
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Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 9/18/2016 3:55 AM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
>> On Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 6:47:02 PM UTC-7, Michael
>> Strickland wrote:
>>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 23:20:18 -0500, Serigo <invalid@invalid.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The electrostatic potential gradient between the Earth and the
>>>> Ionosphere is about 100Vm-1 near the surface in summer, rising to
>>>>  300Vm-1 in winter. It is well known that electrostatic motors
>>>> can be driven by the atmospheric electric field indefinitely from
>>>> an appropriate antenna and earth connection.
> 
>>
>> The deal-breaker is the miniscule power available. Kilovolts, but the
>> total amount of current passing from the ionosphere to the surface is
>> less than two thousand amps. The current that through a square meter
>> parallel to Earth's surface is about ten *pico*amps.
>>
>> http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_09.html
>>
>> That means you need a large antenna to get even detectable current,
>> let alone enough to do useful work.
>>
>> It's doable, but not feasible. How many acres of land can you afford
>> to cover with a copper mesh roof a thousand feet high?
>>
>>
> 
> 
> copper would corrode, but you could use copper coated steel wire like 
> the old telegraph lines. that was tough stuff, and went a span of 200' (?)
> 
> Actually the mesh could be sparce, put up towers 100' tall 100' apart 
> and connect the tops with that telegraph wire.  Im thinking of the old 
> rule of tower protects at a 45 degree angle the stuff below it from 
> lightning strikes.
> 
> But you would have to watch the high voltage insulation of the wires 
> from the towers, at 100 v/foot, 100 feet => 10,000 volts so tripple 
> that, as when a cloud comes over the E Field goes up a lot.

There are lots of towers much higher than that and they do not see
tens of thousands of volts impressed on them.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-16 23:20 -0500
  Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2016-09-17 21:46 -0400
    Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-17 22:34 -0500
    Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 01:55 -0700
      Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-18 11:17 -0500
        Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-18 11:31 -0500
        Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 18:05 +0000
          Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 11:47 -0700
            Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 19:37 +0000
              Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-18 14:59 -0500
                Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 20:36 +0000
                Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-18 16:01 -0500
                Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 23:33 +0000
                Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 12:20 -0700

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