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Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors

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On 9/17/2016 8:46 PM, Michael J. Strickland wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 23:20:18 -0500, Serigo <invalid@invalid.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The electrostatic potential gradient between the Earth and the
>> Ionosphere is about 100Vm-1 near the surface in summer, rising to
>> 300Vm-1 in winter. It is well known that electrostatic motors can be
>> driven by the atmospheric electric field indefinitely from an
>> appropriate antenna and earth connection.
>>
>> To convert this "static" potential field into useable electricity, an
>> antenna or collector is raised to a suitable altitude. The static charge
>> collected is then used to charge a condenser bank or drive an
>> electrostatic parametric generator that converts the static charge into
>> alternating current.

> How is it proposed to "collect the static charge"? The imbalance of
> charged ions of the ionosphere compared to the ground creates this
> electric field (or potential difference). What will hold (and shape)
> the current flow for an electric motor? Maybe we could harness the
> circumferential magnetic flux of a lightning bolt (or an antenna to
> ground current carrying wire) as the stator but we still need a rotor
> (current carrying wire/conduit) for our "motor."
>
> ...
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> Michael J. Strickland			Reston, VA
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>

there are some static motors around, demos only, very little power, only 
enough to move the parts. There has been a lot of research in static 
back in the 20's and 30's most forgotton now, In the 1740s and 1750s, 
the first electrostatic motors were developed by Andrew Gordon and by 
Benjamin Franklin.

https://3dprint.com/66115/3d-printed-electrostatic-motor/

but the amount of current from atmospheric static is very low, perhaps 
10^12 A per m^2

there are a lot of patents in this area

https://www.amazon.com/Electrostatic-Motors-History-Principles-Operation/dp/1935023470/ref=pd_sim_b_1

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E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-16 23:20 -0500
  Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2016-09-17 21:46 -0400
    Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-17 22:34 -0500
    Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 01:55 -0700
      Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-18 11:17 -0500
        Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-18 11:31 -0500
        Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 18:05 +0000
          Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 11:47 -0700
            Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 19:37 +0000
              Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-18 14:59 -0500
                Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 20:36 +0000
                Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-18 16:01 -0500
                Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 23:33 +0000
                Re: E Field uses and E Field Motors noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 12:20 -0700

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