Re: Nuclei actually have near zero velocity when fusion occurs during beam fusion...

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Nuclei actually have near zero velocity when fusion occurs during beam fusion...
Date	2016-08-23 13:57 -0500
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On 8/23/2016 1:41 PM, Sven Andersson wrote:
> Den tisdag 23 augusti 2016 kl. 18:13:55 UTC+2 skrev Odd Bodkin:
>> On 8/23/2016 10:59 AM, Sven Andersson wrote:
>>> Den måndag 22 augusti 2016 kl. 01:10:06 UTC+2 skrev Odd Bodkin:
>>>> On 8/20/2016 11:56 AM, Sven Andersson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Yes, I saw your arguments and they are not convincing. When you irradiate, say a solid lithium
>>>>>>>>> target with protons of high energy there is a lot of radiation flying around, some of it
>>>>>>>>> bremsstrahlung (from protons that make near misses) and some of it from fusion. Meaning, that
>>>>>>>>> the important radiation that I claim exists, will be missed by scientists. Remember; only one
>>>>>>>>> nucleus in a million is on a trajectory that leads exactly towards a target nucleus. Very precise
>>>>>>>>> measurements may be able to detect that radiation though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm talking about collider experiments, not fixed target experiments. In
>>>>>>> a collider experiment you are directly looking at nucleon-nucleon
>>>>>>> interactions.
>>>>> The interaction of the charged particles, the nuclei, leads to kinetic energy being transformed into EM
>>>>> energy. Depending on the trajectory of the particles there will be created, sequentially EM quanta with
>>>>> increasing energy. Sometimes (one in a million) all of the kinetic energy, or almost all will go into EM
>>>>> energy. In that case the last EM quantum is probably a gamma ray photon. It will be missed, most likely,
>>>>> by investigators because there is so much other radiation.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I really think you should take a look at the instrumentation of a
>>>> collider detector. The entire interaction region is surrounded by EM
>>>> calorimetry, whose sole function is to NOT miss EM energy (usually in
>>>> the form of gammas and X-rays), except for a tiny aperture where the
>>>> beams pass through.
>>>>
>>>> The fact is, this bremsstrahlung radiation that you claim is associated
>>>> with the slowdown of the interacting hadrons would be easily observed in
>>>> the surrounding detector if it were there. But it is not seen, which you
>>>> will see if you actually looked at some experimental papers in the
>>>> field. This lack of evidence of something you definitively predict is
>>>> sufficient to rule out your theory.
>>>>
>>>> On a basic note, you should be concerned if you are presenting a theory
>>>> which has an explanation with observable outcomes, but the only way you
>>>> can maintain your hope in the theory is by claiming that the observable
>>>> outcome is not really observable. If the theory is not TESTABLE through
>>>> observations, then it isn't really a viable theory in the first place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>
>>> Alright, direct me to several such experimental papers so that I can read
>>> for myself. Thanks in advance, if you take the time to do this!
>>>
>>
>> I had presumed that you know how to do this:
>> https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=DZero+collaboration&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C5
>>
>> https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=CDF+collaboration&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5
>>
>> https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=ALICE+collaboration&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5
>>
>> https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=ALICE+collaboration&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5

The above should be
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=ATLAS+collaboration&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C44

>>
>> https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=CMS+collaboration&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5
>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>
> Point me to a review article or a book, instead! It's not that I can't do it myself
> but sometimes asking maybe a shortcut to finding the best information.
>


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Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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