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Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS

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On 8/21/2016 11:02 PM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>
> This is the typical lie.
>
> lets start with WWI...
>
> This was caused by killing of the Prince of the Austrians and his wife
> in Serbia.
>
> This has nothing to do with Germany, since neither Serbia nor Austria
> are parts of Germany.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/britain-at-war/10110657/Germany-and-Austria-started-WWI-seeking-European-domination-historian-says.html

>
> The faked 'Kaiser' Wilhelmm II was actually the nephew of Queen Victoria
> and not particular German and not elected, as the title 'kaiser' would
> require.
>
> But it was actually him, who led Germany into a conflict, which was not
> designed to solve any problems, but to kill as many human beings as
> possible.

And so you are claiming that Kaiser Wilhelm, who led Germany into the 
conflict, was not German and so Germany is not responsible for Germany's 
involvement with WWI?

Are you nuts?

>
> Most of the victim were in fact British and French.
>
> It was actually Churchill himself, who headed the idiotic campaign of
> Gallipoli.
>
> Also the trenches in Flanders had no other purpose as to kill as many
> people as possible.
>
> Same with the so called Revolution in Russia, initiated by the very same
> circles.
>
> Who these people are, that is not exactly known.
>
> (I personally assume certain sects, like   Rosecrucians and Illuminati,
> who secretly pull the strings from behind the scenes. But actually I do
> not know.)
>
> These groups have also banks and control the money flow, what they had
> used to initiate hyperinflations.

So you are saying that an underground conspiracy by a secret society was 
responsible for all the ills that Germany suffered in the 20th century?

Aha, so you are nuts.

>
> This was exceptionally profitable, since money and property lost by
> ordinary people went into the hands of the 'bad guys'.
>
> And hyperinflation was definitely nothing, what the common man would
> usually chose. So, Germans did neither want trenches in Flanders nor
> hyperinflation.
>
> Similar with communist and/or fascists riots and coups.
>
> To say 'the Germans' made that is simply a lie.
>
> It was nevertheless made and among the makers were Germans, but the
> common people did not participate in such events.
>
> Same pattern with the Nazis.

Who were not Germans?

>
> Personally I believe, that 'Hitler' was the false identity of a British
> spy, who had the real identity Noel Trevenen Huxley.
>
> He lived in the house of the Wagner family in Munich, to where he was
> brought by his brother Julian Huxley. That was a British spy and head of
> 'Eugenics'. He went to Bavaria in 1913 for a year (for WWI planning).
>
> Forerunners of the Nazis were actually British and American, like the
> BUF and the Silver Shirts.
>
> Supporters of German Nazis were people like Henry Ford or Prescott Bush.
>
> Churchill also supported the fascists, as we can see in the relation of
> niece Diana to Sir Oswald Mosley and niece Unity to Hitler himself.
>
> It was also found out, that Mussolini was on the payroll of MI6.
>
> Anyhow..
>
> The Nazis have never won any election. Their takeover was actually a
> coup, supported by Ludendorf and Hindenburg.

A German coup against Germans.

>
> After this coup democracy was abandoned in Germany. And those, who did
> not comply got killed.
>
> Then came WWII and at its end Germany was completely destroyed.
>
> The Germans themselves had not chosen this end, but have not been asked.
>
> Sure, the German soldiers were mostly Germans. But the single soldier
> had to do, what was told.
>
> This is a hierarchic system, with Hitler at the top. And if the top
> personal conspires with the enemy, then people at the bottom are doomed
> (as Germans were).
>
> To blame the innocent is a typical habit of 'bad guys'. But guilt
> requires something you do and should not, or something you don't do, but
> should.
>
> 'Guilt by proxy' is a typical 'bad guy pattern'. This means, that
> innocent people are guilty, because there were near the event.
> But justice would require, that guilty are those who do something
> illegal, while other people are not guilty.
>
> So: because Germans are among the 'bad guys' this does not make Germans
> 'bad guys'.
>
> The principle of the people being responsible for their nation is
> actually the core of socialism.
>
> Socialism itself is rooted in British aristocracy and above mentioned
> sects.
>
> Especially the Fabians and Eugenics promoted the ideas, upon what
> (national-) socialism is based.
>
> The correct way to see these historic developments would be, that there
> are relatively small groups, which span over several nations and which
> control politics, military of finance within their realm.
>
> Those 'bad guys' attempt to make the people of a certain nation
> complicit, if possible. But their content is not really necessary, since
> even the innocent are punished.
>
> Since 'bad guys' are actually bad, they really love to punish their own
> followers, as we can see in the fate of the SA or Rudolph Hess (and - of
> course- of Germany in total).
>
> TH
>


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Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-16 23:23 +0200
  Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-16 14:48 -0700
    Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-08-17 08:07 +1000
  Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 17:33 -0500
    Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-19 02:45 +0200
      Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 07:30 -0500
        Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-21 07:12 +0200
          Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-21 17:41 -0500
            Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-22 06:02 +0200
              Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-21 21:47 -0700
              Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-22 08:47 -0500
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