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Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS

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On 8/21/2016 12:12 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 19.08.2016 14:30, schrieb Odd Bodkin:
>
>>>> For 18-year-olds, it is the expectation in the US that these are no
>>>> longer children. They can vote as adults, they can indulge in adult
>>>> vices of most sorts, they can serve in the military. As such, if they
>>>> want to further their own careers by getting specialized education
>>>> (say,
>>>> to prepare to be medical doctors), Americans treat that as "OK, this is
>>>> on your dime, then."
>>>
>>>
>>> Apparently the US government is ripping off the citizens, if they do not
>>> want to pay for schools and collages.
>>
>> Now, now. Different does not mean worse.
>> In your country it may be an EXPECTATION that the government pays for
>> schools and colleges, and so the fact that it does seems right. Here, it
>> is not an expectation, and so the absence of it is not a loss.
>
> I do in fact think, that schools are among those public services, which
> a state should provide.

And this is your opinion. Not universally shared.

>
> Other services are: streets, pavements, water-supply, police and justice.
>
> In case of higher education there could be eventually different rules.
> But schools are mandatory and every single kid should have the
> possibility to learn.
>
>>>
>>> So what justifies taxes at all?
>>>
>>> The monstrous army and these questionable wars?
>>
>> I think you'll find that the US budget is well documented and easily
>> found on the web. You'll learn that there's more for the government to
>> do than to have an army and to subsidize higher education. If you want
>> to judge which system produces better results, Germany has 61 Nobel
>> Prize, and the US has 257.
>>
>
> You cannot measure the situation in a certain country by counting Nobel
> prices.
>
> Sure, USA has more. But one reason was WW II, after which all German
> scientists were hijacked and taken to the USA and to Russia.

LOL. You may note that a number of Jewish German scientists fled BEFORE 
the start of WWII.

>
> Physics in Germany was world-class in the beginning of the 20th century.

Yes, it was.

>
> Then came a series of devastating events, which look like administered
> from abroad (and by secret societies):
>
> WW I
> Versaille treaty
> Revolution
> Fascist coup
> hyperinflation no. 1
> Sex and drugs era of the 20th
> world economy crisis
> hyperinflation no. 2
> Nazi dictatorship
> WW II
> complete destruction of all cities
> hyperinflation no.3
> occupation
> loss of one third of the country
> loss of one third of the population
> loss of almost all scientists, books and univerities
> communists dictatorship in East Germany
> cold war and iron curtain running through the country

And you know, of course, that most of these were brought on by the 
German people themselves?

>
> TH


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Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-16 23:23 +0200
  Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-16 14:48 -0700
    Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-08-17 08:07 +1000
  Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 17:33 -0500
    Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-19 02:45 +0200
      Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 07:30 -0500
        Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-21 07:12 +0200
          Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-21 17:41 -0500
            Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-22 06:02 +0200
              Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-21 21:47 -0700
              Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-22 08:47 -0500
                Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-22 23:47 +0200

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