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Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS

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Am 22.08.2016 00:41, schrieb Odd Bodkin:
> On 8/21/2016 12:12 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am 19.08.2016 14:30, schrieb Odd Bodkin:
>>
>>>>> For 18-year-olds, it is the expectation in the US that these are no
>>>>> longer children. They can vote as adults, they can indulge in adult
>>>>> vices of most sorts, they can serve in the military. As such, if they
>>>>> want to further their own careers by getting specialized education
>>>>> (say,
>>>>> to prepare to be medical doctors), Americans treat that as "OK,
>>>>> this is
>>>>> on your dime, then."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Apparently the US government is ripping off the citizens, if they do
>>>> not
>>>> want to pay for schools and collages.
>>>
>>> Now, now. Different does not mean worse.
>>> In your country it may be an EXPECTATION that the government pays for
>>> schools and colleges, and so the fact that it does seems right. Here, it
>>> is not an expectation, and so the absence of it is not a loss.
>>
>> I do in fact think, that schools are among those public services, which
>> a state should provide.
>
> And this is your opinion. Not universally shared.
>
>>
>> Other services are: streets, pavements, water-supply, police and justice.
>>
>> In case of higher education there could be eventually different rules.
>> But schools are mandatory and every single kid should have the
>> possibility to learn.
>>
>>>>
>>>> So what justifies taxes at all?
>>>>
>>>> The monstrous army and these questionable wars?
>>>
>>> I think you'll find that the US budget is well documented and easily
>>> found on the web. You'll learn that there's more for the government to
>>> do than to have an army and to subsidize higher education. If you want
>>> to judge which system produces better results, Germany has 61 Nobel
>>> Prize, and the US has 257.
>>>
>>
>> You cannot measure the situation in a certain country by counting Nobel
>> prices.
>>
>> Sure, USA has more. But one reason was WW II, after which all German
>> scientists were hijacked and taken to the USA and to Russia.
>
> LOL. You may note that a number of Jewish German scientists fled BEFORE
> the start of WWII.
>
>>
>> Physics in Germany was world-class in the beginning of the 20th century.
>
> Yes, it was.
>
>>
>> Then came a series of devastating events, which look like administered
>> from abroad (and by secret societies):
>>
>> WW I
>> Versaille treaty
>> Revolution
>> Fascist coup
>> hyperinflation no. 1
>> Sex and drugs era of the 20th
>> world economy crisis
>> hyperinflation no. 2
>> Nazi dictatorship
>> WW II
>> complete destruction of all cities
>> hyperinflation no.3
>> occupation
>> loss of one third of the country
>> loss of one third of the population
>> loss of almost all scientists, books and univerities
>> communists dictatorship in East Germany
>> cold war and iron curtain running through the country
>
> And you know, of course, that most of these were brought on by the
> German people themselves?
>

This is the typical lie.

lets start with WWI...

This was caused by killing of the Prince of the Austrians and his wife 
in Serbia.

This has nothing to do with Germany, since neither Serbia nor Austria 
are parts of Germany.

The faked 'Kaiser' Wilhelmm II was actually the nephew of Queen Victoria 
and not particular German and not elected, as the title 'kaiser' would 
require.

But it was actually him, who led Germany into a conflict, which was not 
designed to solve any problems, but to kill as many human beings as 
possible.

Most of the victim were in fact British and French.

It was actually Churchill himself, who headed the idiotic campaign of 
Gallipoli.

Also the trenches in Flanders had no other purpose as to kill as many 
people as possible.

Same with the so called Revolution in Russia, initiated by the very same 
circles.

Who these people are, that is not exactly known.

(I personally assume certain sects, like   Rosecrucians and Illuminati, 
who secretly pull the strings from behind the scenes. But actually I do 
not know.)

These groups have also banks and control the money flow, what they had 
used to initiate hyperinflations.

This was exceptionally profitable, since money and property lost by 
ordinary people went into the hands of the 'bad guys'.

And hyperinflation was definitely nothing, what the common man would 
usually chose. So, Germans did neither want trenches in Flanders nor 
hyperinflation.

Similar with communist and/or fascists riots and coups.

To say 'the Germans' made that is simply a lie.

It was nevertheless made and among the makers were Germans, but the 
common people did not participate in such events.

Same pattern with the Nazis.

Personally I believe, that 'Hitler' was the false identity of a British 
spy, who had the real identity Noel Trevenen Huxley.

He lived in the house of the Wagner family in Munich, to where he was 
brought by his brother Julian Huxley. That was a British spy and head of 
'Eugenics'. He went to Bavaria in 1913 for a year (for WWI planning).

Forerunners of the Nazis were actually British and American, like the 
BUF and the Silver Shirts.

Supporters of German Nazis were people like Henry Ford or Prescott Bush.

Churchill also supported the fascists, as we can see in the relation of 
niece Diana to Sir Oswald Mosley and niece Unity to Hitler himself.

It was also found out, that Mussolini was on the payroll of MI6.

Anyhow..

The Nazis have never won any election. Their takeover was actually a 
coup, supported by Ludendorf and Hindenburg.

After this coup democracy was abandoned in Germany. And those, who did 
not comply got killed.

Then came WWII and at its end Germany was completely destroyed.

The Germans themselves had not chosen this end, but have not been asked.

Sure, the German soldiers were mostly Germans. But the single soldier 
had to do, what was told.

This is a hierarchic system, with Hitler at the top. And if the top 
personal conspires with the enemy, then people at the bottom are doomed 
(as Germans were).

To blame the innocent is a typical habit of 'bad guys'. But guilt 
requires something you do and should not, or something you don't do, but 
should.

'Guilt by proxy' is a typical 'bad guy pattern'. This means, that 
innocent people are guilty, because there were near the event.
But justice would require, that guilty are those who do something 
illegal, while other people are not guilty.

So: because Germans are among the 'bad guys' this does not make Germans 
'bad guys'.

The principle of the people being responsible for their nation is 
actually the core of socialism.

Socialism itself is rooted in British aristocracy and above mentioned 
sects.

Especially the Fabians and Eugenics promoted the ideas, upon what 
(national-) socialism is based.

The correct way to see these historic developments would be, that there 
are relatively small groups, which span over several nations and which 
control politics, military of finance within their realm.

Those 'bad guys' attempt to make the people of a certain nation 
complicit, if possible. But their content is not really necessary, since 
even the innocent are punished.

Since 'bad guys' are actually bad, they really love to punish their own 
followers, as we can see in the fate of the SA or Rudolph Hess (and - of 
course- of Germany in total).

TH

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Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-16 23:23 +0200
  Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-16 14:48 -0700
    Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-08-17 08:07 +1000
  Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 17:33 -0500
    Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-19 02:45 +0200
      Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 07:30 -0500
        Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-21 07:12 +0200
          Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-21 17:41 -0500
            Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-22 06:02 +0200
              Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-21 21:47 -0700
              Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-22 08:47 -0500
                Re: Tom Roberts' Proposed Experiments to Detect RoS Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-22 23:47 +0200

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