Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed
Date	2016-08-15 08:27 -0500
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On 8/14/2016 2:23 PM, LIGO Fraud Investigator wrote:
> On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 6:28:23 AM UTC-7, bartekltg wrote:
>> On 11.08.2016 00:47, LIGO Fraud Investigator wrote:
>> [...]
>>> Gravity has no speed. It is a nonlocal or instantaneous phenomenon,
>>> otherwise the inverse square law would not hold and Newtonian gravity
>>> would be way off.
>>
>> Not true.
>
> Fuck you, asshole. It is true.
>
>> Do you mean that if gravitational interaction is retarded, two body
>> system would gain more and more energy?
>
> No. I mean that, if gravity propagated at a finite speed, the gravitational
> field around a moving body would not be symmetrical and Newtonian physics would
> be fully falsified, i.e., planets and moons would not remain in stable orbits.

Prove it.

>
>> This is a common mistake. If you consider one of O(v/c) correction
>> (retardation), you should consider all corrections of that order of
>> amplitude.
>
> It's no fucking mistake. It is you who are either lying or deluded.

Then prove your contention.

>
>> The same "trap" is in electrostatic/electromagnetism.
>> The electric field from a charged particle is
>> E = k Q r/|r|^3.
>> ( |E| ~ 1/r^2)
>>
>> and changes in electric (and magnetic) field travel with light speed.
>> Still, two charged balls will not gain energy. If you try to
>> derive precise equations on the forces, the forces still woudl be central.
>>
>> Similary in gravitation.
>
> It is similar to gravitation because, contrary to the teachings of the
> clueless and gutless physics community, the electric field is also instantaneous,

Not true for a moving charge.

> just like gravity. A moving electron cannot possibly broadcast its relative
> position and velocity to other particles because it has no access to this
> information unless one assumes that there is instantaneous communication
> between the electron and the other particles. Get a clue, moron. And stop
> kissing ass like a gutless worm.
>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein%E2%80%93Infeld%E2%80%93Hoffmann_equations
>>
>> This equation contain all v/c (cancelled out!) and (v/c)^2
>> correction.
>>
>>> Laplace proved long ago that the speed of gravity would have to be orders of magnitude
>>
>> Laplace use some strange fluid model, not GR.
>>
>> Even wiki know that:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_gravity#Laplace
>>
>> bartekltg
>
> You need to grow two pairs: a pair of balls and a pair of neurons between your ears.
> IOW, fuck you, you gutless mental midget. Don't bother replying. I will ignore your
> worthless crap from now on.

In other words, anytime anyone points out a problem with your thinking, 
you say "fuck you" and ignore any more posts along that line.

I see.

>
> ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Gravity Force Has No Speed "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 12:16 -0700
  Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-20 13:52 -0700
    Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 16:47 -0500
      Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 15:08 -0700
        Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-20 20:34 -0400
          Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 05:58 -0700
        Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-20 17:57 -0700
    Re: Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2016-07-21 02:52 -0400
      Re: Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-21 09:04 -0700
        Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 11:34 -0500
          Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-21 10:00 -0700
            Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 12:09 -0500
        Re: Re: Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2016-07-22 02:05 -0400
          Re: Re: Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-22 07:50 -0700
            Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 10:03 -0500
              Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-22 08:07 -0700
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 10:53 -0500
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-22 09:03 -0700
            Re: Re: Re: Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2016-07-23 04:52 -0400
              Re: Re: Re: Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-23 14:48 -0700
              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 15:43 -0400
    Re: Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2016-07-21 02:56 -0400
      Re: Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-21 09:19 -0700
        Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 11:37 -0500
          Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-21 10:01 -0700
            Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 12:11 -0500
              Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-21 11:33 -0700
        Re: Re: Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2016-07-22 01:55 -0400
          Re: Re: Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-22 09:01 -0700
            Re: Re: Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 09:15 -0700
              Re: Re: Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-22 09:37 -0700
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 12:18 -0500
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-22 10:50 -0700
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 13:42 -0500
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-22 11:44 -0700
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 13:52 -0500
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-22 11:57 -0700
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 14:14 -0500
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 14:32 -0500
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-22 13:00 -0700
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 17:02 -0500
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-22 15:30 -0700
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 10:49 -0500
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-23 09:31 -0700
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 11:39 -0500
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-23 16:53 -0700
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 15:13 -0500
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-24 14:19 -0700
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 07:58 -0500
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 13:08 -0700
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 15:56 -0500
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 14:14 -0700
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-22 17:01 -0400
            Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 12:15 -0500
              Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-22 10:48 -0700
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 13:36 -0500
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-22 11:37 -0700
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 13:51 -0500
            Re: Re: Re: Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2016-07-23 05:09 -0400
          Electric field (was: Re: Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-07-25 07:43 +0200
            Re: Electric field (was: Re: Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed) mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-24 23:12 -0700
              Re: Electric field Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 08:26 -0500
                Re: Electric field mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 13:08 -0700
              Re: Electric field Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-07-25 18:43 +0200
                Re: Electric field mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 12:16 -0700
                Re: Electric field Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-07-25 22:27 +0200
                Re: Electric field mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 18:02 -0700
                Re: Electric field Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-07-26 07:14 +0200
                Re: Electric field Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 15:51 -0500
  Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 09:36 -0700
  Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 17:59 -0700
    Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-23 17:37 -0400
  Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 10:44 -0700
    Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 12:57 -0700
      Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-08-10 16:38 -0700
      Re: Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2016-08-11 04:30 -0400
        Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed bartekltg <bartekltg@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 15:03 +0200
          Re: Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2016-08-12 05:48 -0400
            Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed bartekltg <bartekltg@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 14:01 +0200
              Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed LIGO Fraud Investigator <mapou001@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 09:16 -0700
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed bartekltg <bartekltg@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 12:40 +0200
                Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed LIGO Fraud Investigator <mapou001@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 12:30 -0700
  Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed bartekltg <bartekltg@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 23:11 +0200
    Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed LIGO Fraud Investigator <mapou001@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 15:47 -0700
      Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed bartekltg <bartekltg@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 15:28 +0200
        Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed LIGO Fraud Investigator <mapou001@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 12:23 -0700
          Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 08:27 -0500
      Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 09:17 -0500
    Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed LIGO Fraud Investigator <mapou001@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 12:53 -0700
      Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed bartekltg <bartekltg@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 11:23 +0200
        Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed LIGO Fraud Investigator <mapou001@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 12:24 -0700
          Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 08:28 -0500
            Re: Gravity Force Has No Speed LIGO Fraud Investigator <mapou001@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 11:38 -0700

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