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Re: The New Gravity Theory

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: The New Gravity Theory
Date 2016-08-11 17:45 -0500
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On 8/11/2016 5:40 PM, LIGO Fraud Investigator wrote:
> On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 11:30:40 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 8/11/2016 1:05 PM, LIGO Fraud Investigator wrote:
>>> On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 10:38:16 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 8/11/2016 12:10 PM, LIGO Fraud Investigator wrote:
>>>>> Any gravity theory that posits a "flux" of force particles is dead on arrival.
>>>>> The reason is that gravity affects everything including the flux particles
>>>>> themselves, thereby resulting in an infinite self-referential regress. Not even wrong.
>>>>
>>>> You may be interested in a highly verified theory of the strong nuclear
>>>> interactions called quantum chromodynamics. Introduced in the 1960's, it
>>>> has had five decades of experimental test and verification. One of the
>>>> interesting features of this theory is that the "force particles",
>>>> called gluons, also feel the strong nuclear interaction. That is, gluons
>>>> interact with gluons. This is what I gather you call "self-referential
>>>> regress", something you think cannot possibly be (for some reason not
>>>> articulated). However, this aspect of QCD turns out to be the only way
>>>> to explain some of the observed phenomenology of strong interactions,
>>>> including jets of secondary particles in high transverse-pT collisions
>>>> at particle accelerators. Thus something you think cannot be true of the
>>>> universe does in fact appear to be true in experiment. In science,
>>>> anyway, experiment trumps all human expectations of how the universe
>>>> should work.
>>>
>>> Bodkin, why don't you crawl back under your little rock you live under? Electrons, too, interact with
>>> electrons. So fucking what?
>>
>> No, they don't. They interact with PHOTONS. The only path for electrons
>> to interact with electrons is through an intermediary photon. But
>> photons do not interact with photons. So in this way, quantum
>> electrodynamics is different than quantum chromodynamics, because gluons
>> DO interact with gluons, as well as with quarks.
>
> That's only because the photons emitted by an electron repel other electrons.

Nope.

> It's not because electrons cannot interact.

Bullshit.

> Electrons interact with positrons which are really electrons with a positive
> charge. Get a clue, moron. And stop kissing ass.

No, they're not.

>
>>> The problem with gravitons is that gravity does not behave as if the "force particles" interact with
>>> themselves. Even the stupid black hole crackpottery of mainstream physics would be impossible if
>>> gravitons were involved because nothing can escape a black hole by definition, including the gravitons
>>> themselves.
>>
>> Here is where you have simply taken a soundbite and completely
>> misunderstood what was being said. Somehow you think that theories of
>> gravitation say that gravitons are emitted from inside the event horizon
>> of a black hole and that's how matter would be attracted to the black
>> hole. But in fact this is NOT WHAT THOSE THEORIES SAY. The gravitons do
>> NOT come from the interior of the black hole at all.
>
> And yet, the gravitational pull of a black hole supposedly reflects the entire mass of the black hole.

Yes, this STILL doesn't mean that the gravitons come from inside the 
black hole.

> Those are not theories. They are unicorn fairy tales for ass kissers like you.
>
>>> Gravitons (or whatever unicorn particle you clueless bozos can think of) would be accelerated at
>>> twice the rate of massive particles if they existed.
>>
>> Another sound bite where you have completely misunderstood what was
>> being said.
>
> Fuck you, you gutless asshole. I ain't your dog.

You're certainly not. But you still have misunderstood the sound bite.

>
>>> Think about it. How would you get an inverse
>>> square law from this crap?
>>
>> It's pretty easy to show how general relativity produces the inverse
>> square law in the low-gravity limit, which is where Newtonian gravity
>> applies.
>
> And what the fuck does this have to do with gravitons? Keep licking ass,
> maggot, and see if I give a shit. LOL

Gravitons are the quantization of general relativity, you idiot.

>
>>> Modern physics is sitting on a mountain of crap. Physicists wallow in the crap with a smile on their faces.
>>
>> I think all that you've demonstrated, Louis, is that you are only
>> capable of misreading soundbites from magazine articles and an
>> occasional web page, and then running with that misreading straight into
>> the weeds. It's like you get in a truck and drive it badly on the
>> highway, having no clue how to make the think work right, and when you
>> topple the truck over into a ditch, you get out and say, "See? I told
>> you this truck is a broken piece of shit!"
>
> What you have demonstrated is that you are an ass kisser and a mental midget. But then
> again, the physics community is full of those. They're like a nest of snakes. They carry
> their reptilian morality on their sleeves. But every BS must come to an end sooner or later.

Reptilian morality? Do tell.

>
> ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...
>


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Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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