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Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone?

From Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com>
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone?
Date 2016-08-10 08:37 -0700
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 08:37:11 -0500, joe wrote:

> I think your spelling of 'primitive' should actually be 'secure' 
> as many of the traits you call primitive are a result of an 
> implementation that is more secure.

I realized only recently that you Apple apologists think such unreasonable
things simply because your primary motive for choosing an operating system
is based on sheer unadulterated *fear*.

Therefore, without any facts whatsoever, you easily fall for Mommy Apple
Marketing tricks where they play all of you like a fiddle by sweetly
telling you that the blue hairy monster in the closet can't get out if you
simply close the closet door. 

Facts aren't something you know how to deal with.
You listen to Mommy Apple Marketing, and you trust her.

However, you can't fool someone like me who has both the primitive iOS and
the more advanced Android operating system.

I try the same things on both operating systems because my mobile device
needs are the same irrespective of the operating system.

So I know that the iOS operating system is primitive.
It's nowhere near as customizable to the user as is Android.

The fact is that iOS is so primitive that even I have to "just give up" on
doing what I want with it. 

The fact is that you "just give up" so often that you don't even *think*
about it anymore. You just give up all the time. 

For example, you simply accept that you can't possibly organize your
desktop the way you want to organize it.

As just one of almost a score of examples I've already provided, today I
reset my Android phone to factory defaults and then I re-installed all my
apps, and set up my desktop, all without using a single computer or cloud.

Here is what my desktop looks like:
http://i.cubeupload.com/FDrkG8.png

Now, try any of *that* with the primitive iOS.
You can't do it on iOS.
Even "I" can't do it on iOS.

That's because iOS is primitive.
It has nothing to do with "security".
ioS is just primitive. Period.

On the primitive iOS, you have to "just give up" all the time.

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Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-02 19:37 +0000
  Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-02 15:43 -0400
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-02 19:54 +0000
  Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-02 22:28 -0400
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 03:18 +0000
      Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 03:43 +0000
        Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-02 23:51 -0400
          Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 04:21 +0000
            Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 06:34 +0000
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-08-02 23:43 -0700
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 07:06 +0000
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 06:47 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-03 11:04 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:13 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 15:19 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 08:57 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:54 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 13:05 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-04 03:54 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:54 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-04 04:00 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 21:03 +0000
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-03 10:57 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:32 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 15:33 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:42 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 16:00 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 09:15 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:54 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 13:06 +0200
  Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-03 11:07 +0200
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 06:38 -0400
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Meanie <meanie.brat@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 16:40 -0400
  Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-03 13:43 +0000
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-08-03 07:08 -0700
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 16:33 +0000
      Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 12:41 -0400
        Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:35 +0000
          Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 16:00 -0400
      Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 17:37 +0000
        Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 14:47 -0400
          Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:03 +0000
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              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:30 +0000
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            Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 15:19 -0400
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:56 +0000
            Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 09:37 +0200
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