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Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone?

From Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com>
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone?
Date 2016-08-03 19:03 +0000
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On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 14:47:23 -0400, nospam wrote:

>> Facts only.
> 
> they've been provided. 

Yes. I provided the only facts in this thread. 
And I present the facts to all, for scientific review.

You, on the other hand, *never* present facts.

You simply *allude* to unknown cryptic riddles like a priest waving his 
hand over the heavens presuming an all-powerful Apple God looking over your 
privacy.

Never *once* will you present a *single* fact in this thread.
I know you all too well.

> you aren't interested.

You go to *zero* effort to shoot down my facts which took me more time to 
document for the team than to run the tests.

You simply say *words*.
You will *never* present a *single* fact in this entire thread.

I know you all too well.
You can't and don't have *any* facts.

You're a consummate iOS apologist.

You *know* you can't get rid of the advertising ID on iOS.
You *know* it's trivial to completely eliminate the advertising ID on 
Android.

So you hide that *fact* by your Apple-God riddles.

> wrong.
You *know* you can't get rid of the advertising ID on iOS.
You *know* it's trivial to completely eliminate the advertising ID on 
Android.

Yet, you only have *words* to fight the *fact* I proved that the 
Advertising ID is eliminated.

In fact, I'm not *afraid* of my facts like you are.
Instead of alluding to an all-powerful Apple-God like you do, I simply 
point out what I did like any scientist would.

Everything I did is 100% reproducible by *any* Android owner with a similar 
version of the operating system (mine is 4.3).

The stupids like Michael Eyd allude to an all-powerful Apple-God in that he 
says that the Apple ID isn't gone - it's just hidden - which - if it's true 
- I'm not afraid of.

But I presented *facts* showing it was eliminated.
I provided *references* showing it can't be created.

Yet you (and the other stupid, Michael Eyd), only present words.
That's what's so odd about you iOS apologists.

You have absolutely zero facts to add to *any* technical discussion on 
privacy.

All you can do is replay tired old Apple Marketing mantra.

You know why?
Because you *know* my facts are right.

If they weren't correct - someone would refute them simply by reproducing 
my test and finding me to be wrong.

You know why that won't happen?
Because I'm right.

Facts are facts.
Science is science.

All you spout is Apple Marketing.
Never a single fact will you provide in this entire thread.

For example, how would *you* eliminate the Apple ID?
Can you eliminate it on iOS as easily as I did on Android?

What's that?
You can't?

I thought so.

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Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-02 19:37 +0000
  Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-02 15:43 -0400
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-02 19:54 +0000
  Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-02 22:28 -0400
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 03:18 +0000
      Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 03:43 +0000
        Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-02 23:51 -0400
          Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 04:21 +0000
            Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 06:34 +0000
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-08-02 23:43 -0700
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 07:06 +0000
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 06:47 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-03 11:04 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:13 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 15:19 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 08:57 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:54 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 13:05 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-04 03:54 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:54 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-04 04:00 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 21:03 +0000
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-03 10:57 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:32 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 15:33 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:42 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 16:00 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 09:15 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:54 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 13:06 +0200
  Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-03 11:07 +0200
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 06:38 -0400
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Meanie <meanie.brat@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 16:40 -0400
  Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-03 13:43 +0000
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-08-03 07:08 -0700
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 16:33 +0000
      Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 12:41 -0400
        Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:35 +0000
          Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 16:00 -0400
      Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 17:37 +0000
        Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 14:47 -0400
          Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:03 +0000
            Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 14:08 -0500
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:30 +0000
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