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Re: QM and GR.

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
Subject Re: QM and GR.
Date 2016-07-23 10:43 -0500
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On 7/23/2016 1:14 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>
> As far as we know, nature behaves unpredictable.
>
> E.g. we cannot predict the path, a certain fly would take.

Because we do not have a good understanding of how a fly works.

>
> So, why should nature like to predict experiments?
>
> I would exclude the requirement of usefulness (as means of predictions)
> for a valid theory about how nature behaves at a fundamental level.

But this is central to the scientific method. It is THE sole way that 
the validity of our scientific understanding is asserted. So you are 
saying that you want to dispense with the scientific method.

>
> Instead it should be simple, since nature would not use too many
> different entities, but infinite variations of the same in different
> manners.
>
> The best theory possible would use only one something, that is observed
> in various guises, as stuff, fields or empty space.

While this is a lofty philosophical stance, it has little to do with 
science. What scientists have shown is that nature is inherently simple, 
but only as simple as necessary. To desire to drive nature to be simpler 
than it is, is folly.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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QM and GR. Y <yanarchi@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-09 08:20 -0700
  Re: QM and GR. Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 18:02 +0200
    Re: QM and GR. "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-09 16:51 -0700
      Re: QM and GR. "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-09 17:55 -0700
  Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-10 07:16 +0200
    Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-11 06:04 +0200
  Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 08:25 -0500
  Re: QM and GR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-10 10:28 -0500
    Re: QM and GR. Y <yanarchi@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-11 08:00 -0700
      Re: QM and GR. Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 17:08 +0200
        Re: QM and GR. Y <yanarchi@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-11 08:12 -0700
      Re: QM and GR. Y <yanarchi@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-11 08:08 -0700
        Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 13:42 -0500
          Re: QM and GR. Y <yanarchi@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:07 -0700
            Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 14:15 -0500
              Re: QM and GR. Y <yanarchi@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:29 -0700
          Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-14 22:48 +0200
            Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 16:30 -0500
              Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-15 07:03 +0200
                Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 07:37 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-15 22:56 +0200
                Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 13:02 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-16 22:17 +0200
                Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 16:47 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-18 07:09 +0200
                Re: QM and GR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-17 10:17 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-18 06:56 +0200
    Re: QM and GR. Jack Chardy <jackc@outlool.org> - 2016-07-11 15:27 +0000
      Re: QM and GR. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-07-16 15:31 +1000
        Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-16 12:15 -0700
          Re: QM and GR. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-07-18 15:01 +1000
        Re: QM and GR. Greg Buttler <grgb@novotnysite.org> - 2016-07-22 16:09 +0000
          Re: QM and GR. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-07-25 12:21 +1000
            Re: QM and GR. Tsvetana Kasatkina <tzve@noemail.info> - 2016-07-29 20:23 +0000
        Re: QM and GR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-22 22:39 -0500
          Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-23 08:14 +0200
            Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 10:43 -0500
            Re: QM and GR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-23 12:33 -0500
              Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-23 22:41 +0200
                Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-24 07:12 +0200
                Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-26 09:21 +0200
              Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-27 07:11 +0200
          Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-23 11:21 -0700
            Re: QM and GR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-24 22:39 -0500
              Re: QM and GR. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-25 09:12 +0200
                Re: QM and GR. paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 07:02 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-25 16:23 +0200
                Re: QM and GR. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 12:44 -0700
              Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-25 10:22 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-27 12:15 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-29 13:51 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 16:04 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-31 11:32 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 14:19 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-31 12:35 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 14:56 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-31 13:37 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 16:09 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-31 15:03 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 17:11 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-31 16:05 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 08:17 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-01 12:30 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 15:11 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-01 13:36 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 17:02 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-30 08:27 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-31 12:25 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 13:47 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-01 14:17 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 17:04 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-01 18:01 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 19:57 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 07:04 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 12:37 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-05 08:37 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 12:40 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-06 14:47 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 13:16 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-08 13:25 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 14:16 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-10 10:52 -0700
          Re: QM and GR. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-07-25 16:45 +1000
            Re: QM and GR. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-07-25 16:46 +1000
            Re: QM and GR. Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 11:08 +0200
            Re: QM and GR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 12:28 -0500
              Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-25 10:51 -0700
              Re: QM and GR. wugi <brol@brol.be> - 2016-07-26 12:11 +0200
                Re: QM and GR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-27 12:11 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-29 10:20 +0200
                Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 07:13 -0500
                Re: The rate at which the time axis grows, relative to the spatial dimensions. Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-08-07 15:36 +0000
                Re: The rate at which the time axis grows, relative to the spatial dimensions. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-07 11:16 -0700
                Re: The rate at which the time axis grows, relative to the spatial dimensions. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 13:21 -0700
                Re: The rate at which the time axis grows, relative to the spatial dimensions. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-08 13:36 -0700
                Re: The rate at which the time axis grows, relative to the spatial dimensions. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-07 12:31 -0500
                Re: The rate at which the time axis grows, relative to the spatial dimensions. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-08 06:57 -0500
                Re: The rate at which the time axis grows, relative to the spatial dimensions. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-08 07:18 +0200
                Re: _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-08 10:10 -0700
                Re: _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-08 11:02 -0700
                Re: _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-08 13:14 -0500
                Re: _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-08 22:52 +0200
                Re: Nature decides _everything_. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-09 08:42 +0200
                Re: Nature decides _everything_. "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-09 07:16 -0700
                Re: Nature decides _everything_. "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-09 07:49 -0700
                Re: Nature programmed you to choose one over the other. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-09 12:09 -0700
                Re: Nature programmed you to choose one over the other. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-09 13:35 -0700
                Re: Nature programmed you to choose one over the other. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-09 23:53 +0200
                Re: Nature programmed you to choose one over the other. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-09 18:17 -0400
                Re: _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-09 06:51 -0500
                Re: _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-09 17:51 -0400
              Re: QM and GR. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-02 06:41 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-02 23:55 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-03 05:27 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 07:39 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-05 05:25 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 08:07 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-06 07:51 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 15:57 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-06 14:49 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 17:30 -0500
  Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-15 17:06 -0700

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