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| From | PAS <abc@doremi.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.mobile.android |
| Subject | Re: Samsung region and SIM locking phones |
| Date | 2016-07-18 14:21 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <nmj6mt$bol$2@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (1 earlier) <VA.00000ba1.007eba46@me.invalid> <nmava1$d4b$2@dont-email.me> <s9diobpb72oq30lfbl9kg52lgkk9miihbi@4ax.com> <nmiq2o$st5$2@dont-email.me> <aj4qob95be69n5573op7fln3tgeobbgnch@4ax.com> |
On 7/18/2016 1:35 PM, Micky wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 10:45:44 -0400, PAS <abc@doremi.net> wrote: > >> On 7/15/2016 3:16 PM, Micky wrote: >>> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 11:25:53 -0400, PAS <abc@doremi.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On 7/15/2016 10:47 AM, Daniel James wrote: >>>>> In article <qvkhobdmm0rc10khj3r4qvknghqkr7kljk@4ax.com>, Chris in Makati >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> I've read that Samsung are now locking their latest phones, both >>>>>> regionally and to the first SIM card entered into them. >>>>> Samsung have been locking phones to the region in which they are >>>>> marketed for some time. This is apparently an attempt suppress "grey" >>>>> imports -- to ensure that they can get maximum profits while still being >>>>> able to sell phones at lower margins in less affluent parts of the >>>>> world. >>>>> >>>>>> This presents a problem for anyone who wants to travel and use a local >>>>>> SIM when they visit a different part of the world. >>>>> Not really. The phone is initially locked to the area of sale and must >>>>> be used with a SIM card from that area when new. Once it has been used >>>>> in that "home" area for a short time -- five minutes of calls must be >>>>> made -- the phone will allow a SIM card from a different area to be >>>>> used. >>>>> >>>>> See: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.androidcentral.com/heres-how-region-locking-works-european-sa >>>>> msung-galaxy-s5 >>>>> >>>> Interesting. Is the ability to use a locked phone in another region >>>> after five minutes of use in the home region regulated by law? I could >>> It's not possible to use one with a different phone company, which >>> might make it also impossible to use in another region. But I think >>> it's not a locked phone anymore once the 5 minutes are up. >> I erroneously thought you didn't live in the USA. This ability to use a > You weren't replying to me the first time. LOL. Glad you're following this closer than I am obviously not. > >> locked phone in another region after five minutes of use in the home >> area doesn't happen in the USA, that's why I thought you were living in >> a different country. The phones here in the USA are locked by the >> carriers until they are paid off or, if they are subsidized, when the >> contract expires. > That's what I meant by "fully" paid for. > >> The carriers don't unlock them when the time comes >> unless you formally request that they do. As an AT&T subscriber, your >> phone (and mine, I use AT&T also) can be used on T-Mobile's network. > You just mean that the phone itself will work on the network? > You don't mean it would have done that when it was locked, do you? And > even now, don't I still have to set up a contract with T-mobile and > install their sim card, so that unless the phone can hold two sim > cards I can really only deal with one carrier at a time? Correct, it has to be unlocked. I just meant that an AT&T phone is compatible with T-Mobile's network. My BLU Pure XL has two SIM slots. It has me thinking: if I were to get a T-Mobile SIM and there was both a strong AT&T and T-Mobile signal in a specific area I was in, which network would the phone use? >>>> be wrong but I'm under the impression that locked phones in the USA >>>> cannot be used in another region until they've been unlocked. >>> But not by law. For electronic/protocol reasons that keep another >>> phone company from connecting. Didn't they pass a US law a few years >>> ago that required phone companies to unlock phones after they are >>> fully paid for and no money is owed on the account? So the goverment >>> is promotiing unlocked phones. It's the phone companies that wanted >>> the opposite and that rigidly enforced it until the law was passed. >>> >>> I had to try 2 or 3 times berfore AT&T let me unlock my previous >>> phone. I dont' know what went wrong those times, but on the 3rd time >>> I just put the IME in the webpage and they emailed me a code within a >>> day. I had asked at an AT&T store and he told me to go home and use >>> the computer.
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Samsung region and SIM locking phones Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2016-07-15 13:23 +0100
Re: Samsung region and SIM locking phones Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2016-07-15 15:47 +0100
Re: Samsung region and SIM locking phones PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-15 11:25 -0400
Re: Samsung region and SIM locking phones Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 15:16 -0400
Re: Samsung region and SIM locking phones PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-18 10:45 -0400
Re: Samsung region and SIM locking phones Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 13:35 -0400
Re: Samsung region and SIM locking phones PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-18 14:21 -0400
Re: Samsung region and SIM locking phones Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 23:22 -0400
Re: Samsung region and SIM locking phones PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-19 09:11 -0400
Re: Samsung region and SIM locking phones Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 01:41 -0400
Re: Samsung region and SIM locking phones PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 10:42 -0400
Re: Samsung region and SIM locking phones Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 16:01 -0400
Re: Samsung region and SIM locking phones PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 16:09 -0400
Re: Samsung region and SIM locking phones The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 14:10 -0700
Re: Samsung region and SIM locking phones nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 17:39 -0400
Re: Samsung region and SIM locking phones PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-21 09:16 -0400
Re: Samsung region and SIM locking phones Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2016-07-22 15:58 +0100
Re: Samsung region and SIM locking phones PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-22 11:00 -0400
Re: Samsung region and SIM locking phones Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2016-07-15 17:27 +0100
Re: Samsung region and SIM locking phones Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2016-07-23 23:38 +0100
Re: Samsung region and SIM locking phones Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 15:09 -0400
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