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Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy
Date 2016-07-13 17:02 -0500
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On 7/13/2016 4:40 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 2:31:55 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 7/13/2016 3:11 PM, john wrote:
>>> Odd
>>> What is your mechanism for
>>> how gravity "warps" the Space that you
>>> says has no structure to begin with,
>>> you schizoid?
>>> You'll never say, because it must happen
>>> by magic.
>>>
>>
>> John, we've had this discussion before, and I've given you a couple of
>> really good reading references for books that are actually more than 2
>> pages long. When I've done this for you (at your request), you have
>> stated that you believe that explanations should be no more than a few
>> paragraphs in ordinary, colloquial language.
>>
>> Such a petulant demand is both childish and irrational.
>>
>> If you want to learn what the mechanism is, especially since you are the
>> one ASKING ABOUT IT, then you will pick up one of those books and READ
>> IT. If you don't really care what the mechanism is and are certainly not
>> interested in reading a book about the mechanism, then WHY THE FUCK do
>> you keep asking for it?
>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>
> This is Big Brother BS. There is no mechanism and John is correct. It's a pile of crap.

Sorry, but what you've stated is that YOU PERSONALLY DON'T ACCEPT the 
mechanism, not that there is no mechanism. Two completely different things.

I'll tell you what magic is. Magic is when every explanation you would 
accept for a surprise gets ruled out. Since you do not accept any other 
explanation, the only alternative is magic. This is what magicians do 
for a living. He surprises you, you develop some explanations in your 
head for how that happened, and then the magician shows you that those 
explanations are ruled out. So you're left with magic and mystery. Of 
course, it's not REALLY magic and mystery. There's a perfectly sensible 
explanation for what happened. But some IDIOTS out there will insist 
that explanation is not acceptable and reject it, and they are left with 
magic.

>
> There is no mechanism because there is neither space nor time. As Immanuel Kant would
> put it, if space exists, where is it? And if time exists, where is it? If unicorns exist, where are they?

Why do you think existence is tied to particular location in time in space?

>
> There exist only particles, their properties and their interactions.

That's YOUR preconceived list of acceptable explanations, and you simply 
don't listen to any explanation that doesn't resolve to this. That's 
what's called pig-headed.
And of course, there are lots of things that are magical to you as a result.

> Everything else is either voodoo crap or abstract.
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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  Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 01:09 -0700
    Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 07:53 -0500
      Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 06:08 -0700
        Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 09:00 -0500
          Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 07:17 -0700
            Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 10:40 -0500
              Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 09:23 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:04 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 10:24 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:28 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 11:23 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 13:59 -0500
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                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 14:04 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:06 -0700
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                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 07:42 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 09:46 -0500
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                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 08:02 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 10:16 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 11:49 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 14:38 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 13:11 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 16:31 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-13 14:40 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 17:02 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-13 15:22 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 19:51 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-13 17:56 -0700
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