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Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy
Date 2016-07-11 10:40 -0500
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On 7/11/2016 9:17 AM, john wrote:
> Odd
> I think for myself: gravitational waves
> are stupid and impossible.

If your common sense tells you something is impossible, and yet they 
have been recorded in measurements, you have two choices. One is to 
dismiss the evidence and say your common sense cannot possibly be 
surprised by nature and that the measurements have to be bullshit. The 
second is to admit that possibly, just possibly, nature might have some 
surprises in store for you and that your common sense might be dead 
wrong on occasion. I can tell you how MOST people operate, including 
scientists. How do you operate?

> For them even to exist,
> you must first accept that Space has
> STRUCTURE, which until now,
> you schizophrenic, you've argued AGAINST.

First of all, I've NEVER stated that space does not have structure. I've 
said that about fundamental particles, but I don't every recall saying 
that the same is true for space or that space is a fundamental particle.

Secondly, I FLATLY DISAGREE that having properties requires structure. 
That is something YOU have made up, and you say I must accept what you 
make up. I do not.

Third, I FLATLY DISAGREE that structure is required for waves. We have 
had the discussion several times about what is necessary for waves. 
Whether you buy it or not is irrelevant. It is what physicists say is 
necessary, and so no, I do not have to accept what you believe.

> Now, you argue FOR Space having
> structure?
> Flip. Flop. And fly.
>

Any flip-flopping you sense is due to stuff YOU'VE added to the mix that 
I don't buy into.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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  Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 01:09 -0700
    Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 07:53 -0500
      Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 06:08 -0700
        Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 09:00 -0500
          Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 07:17 -0700
            Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 10:40 -0500
              Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 09:23 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:04 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 10:24 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:28 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 11:23 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 13:59 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 08:33 -0700
              Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 08:28 -0700
            Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-11 18:29 +0000
              Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 11:33 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 14:04 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:06 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 14:13 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:24 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 08:29 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 07:06 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 09:06 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 07:42 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 09:46 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 09:52 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 08:02 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 10:16 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 11:49 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 14:38 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 13:11 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 16:31 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-13 14:40 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 17:02 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-13 15:22 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 19:51 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-13 17:56 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 20:01 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-13 18:17 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 08:55 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 08:34 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-14 14:17 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 16:46 -0500
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                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 08:35 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 15:27 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 19:53 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-14 01:51 +0000
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                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 08:23 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 08:26 -0700
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                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 05:03 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-11 19:52 +0000
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