Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy
Date	2016-07-14 16:46 -0500
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On 7/14/2016 4:17 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 6:55:19 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 7/13/2016 8:17 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 6:01:50 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 7/13/2016 7:56 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 5:51:13 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/13/2016 5:22 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 3:02:49 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> [crap deleted]
>>>>>>>> Why do you think existence is tied to particular location in time in space?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is precisely my point. If everything that exists must exist at a particular point
>>>>>>> in time and space, '
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The suppositive clause is false. It is simply not true, nor is it
>>>>>> believed by scientists that everything MUST exist at a particular point
>>>>>> in time and space. Moreover, this has been true since decades prior to
>>>>>> Einstein's birth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So not only do you have to catch up a little with 19th century physics,
>>>>>> but you should review history a little.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> where is space? And where is time? If they exist, at what point
>>>>>>> in time and space to they exist?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Infinite self-referential regress is a festering sore, a direct symptom of the
>>>>>>> Einsteinian cancer that has invaded the field of physics. It's criminal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>>>
>>>>> Total BS. GR not only claims that bodies exist in spacetime, they can curve it as well.
>>>>
>>>> You have obviously not recalled 19th century physics, including fields,
>>>> which do not exist at a particular place or time. Nor has 19th century
>>>> physics limited its domain and its explanations to particles, their
>>>> properties, and their interactions. See for example, the energy stored
>>>> in a field, a measurement AND calculation done decades before Einstein
>>>> was born.
>>>>
>>>>> Of course, nobody bothered to tell those crackpots and con artists that spacetime is a
>>>>> block universe in which nothing happens.
>>>>
>>>> You are MISTAKEN about it being a block universe, and it would be lovely
>>>> if you might just CONSIDER the possibility that you have mislearned
>>>> something. Or is that possibility of fallibility something that just
>>>> does not apply to you?
>>>>
>>>>> Not everybody is fooled. Big Brother crappy
>>>>> physics is alive and well but not for long.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>
>>> You are either a deluded fool or a con artist. I have come to realize that Einsteinian physics
>>> is a way for the oppressed Jews of Europe to raise a hero for themselves. It's a defense mechanism.
>>> They should do like Moses and place more faith in their God Yahweh instead. Einstein will not save
>>> them. They spend so much energy defending a powerless ghost. What a waste.
>>>
>>
>> Well, thanks at least for outing yourself as an anti-Semite.
>>
>> I think I was spending energy advising you of the work of people like
>> James Maxwell and Michael Faraday, who were Scot and English,
>> respectively. Both made tremendous strides understanding fields, which
>> do not have a particular location in space and time.
>>
>> It may also interest you that Einstein generally did not believe or work
>> on the modern understanding of quantum fields, which states that
>> EVERYTHING in nature is made of fields and their interaction, completely
>> overturning your rather antiquated view that the world consists of
>> particles, their properties, and their interactions. People who have
>> pushed that idea forward have included John Bardeen, Abdus Salam, JD
>> Bjorken, Werner Heisenberg, Erwin Schrodinger, John Wheeler, Sid Drell,
>> Niels Bohr, none of whom are Jews.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>
> First off, I am not anti-semite. I love Jews and everyone else. I just think
> that using Einstein for political reasons is a mistake. Put your faith in your God.
> He helped you in the past. He was angry with you people for a while because of your
> lack of faith. But now his anger has passed and he's back helping you again. This
> is why Israel is an oasis of stability while all of her enemies are in violent
> turmoil. Yahweh has made Jerusalem a heavy stone and all the nations of the world
> who try to lift it will get a hernia. It's in your scriptures.

You have misjudged. I am not a Jew.

Secondly, Einstein wasn't much "used for political reasons" as far as I 
can tell.

Third, I notice that you seemed to gloss over all the other physicists 
who have been MORE INSTRUMENTAL THAN EINSTEIN in promoting the modern 
physics. So why your incessant and misplaced focus on Einstein?

>
> Second, where are fields (whatever they are) if not in space?

You'll note that being "in space" is a little different than saying "at 
a particular location in space".

> In both classical and
> quantum physics space is the underlying substrate in which everything exists.

Oddly enough, this comment about space being the "underlying substrate" 
is not completely true!

You might actually enjoy learning what fields are and the role that 
space is thought to play in modern physics. Do you need a reading 
recommendation.

> This
> leads to an infinite regress. This is why space does not exist.
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-10 21:34 -0700
  Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 01:09 -0700
    Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 07:53 -0500
      Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 06:08 -0700
        Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 09:00 -0500
          Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 07:17 -0700
            Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 10:40 -0500
              Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 09:23 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:04 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 10:24 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:28 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 11:23 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 13:59 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 08:33 -0700
              Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 08:28 -0700
            Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-11 18:29 +0000
              Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 11:33 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 14:04 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:06 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 14:13 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:24 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 08:29 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 07:06 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 09:06 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 07:42 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 09:46 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 09:52 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 08:02 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 10:16 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 11:49 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 14:38 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 13:11 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 16:31 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-13 14:40 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 17:02 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-13 15:22 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 19:51 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-13 17:56 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 20:01 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-13 18:17 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 08:55 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 08:34 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-14 14:17 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 16:46 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-14 14:57 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy xxein1@att.net - 2016-07-14 15:05 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 05:12 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 08:35 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 15:27 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 19:53 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-14 01:51 +0000
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 18:58 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-14 02:20 +0000
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 19:31 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-14 02:43 +0000
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 22:06 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-14 13:24 +0000
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 09:16 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 07:26 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 09:44 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 09:14 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 09:12 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 23:06 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 08:31 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-12 19:44 -0400
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 08:33 -0500
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 08:23 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 08:26 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 23:01 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 05:03 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-11 19:52 +0000
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 08:41 -0700
                Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 08:22 -0700
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  Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-11 13:37 -0700
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