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Re: And the winner is ...

From Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de>
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Subject Re: And the winner is ...
Date 2016-07-10 13:29 +0200
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2016-07-10 13:30:00 +0200

Reiner Hartmann wrote:

> ...

>> Da ich mich stur der Abfindung verweigerte
> Unverständnis pur... Mit 60 ist Schluss. das ist halt der große Vorteil
> einer Riesenfirma in Zeiten der drohenden Unsicherheit.  Da must du noch
> nicht mal aktiv Mist bauen oder Unwillen zeigen, nur Finger hoch wenn es
> ganz allgemein heisst "wer will, 500 Plätze an der Sonne zu vergeben".
> Nennt sich dann Altersteilzeit...

Wurde mir auch schon angeboten - vor langer Zeit. Vor
*zu* langer Zeit vor der RegenAltersGrenze. Und für
das AbfindungsAngebot um 2009 gilt das gleiche.

Dann gab es 2013 noch mal eines. Aber nach
SozialPlan plus BetriebsRatsObulus plus
SchnellEndtschlossenenZuschlag war diese
Abfindung grösser als das, was ich bis zur
RegelAltersGrenze verdiene. Und ausgerechnet
in der Situation haben sie noch einmal genauer
nachgerechnet - und das Angebot zurückgezogen.

Ausserdem steht der Verdacht im Raum, dass
die aus medizinischen Gründen zu erwartende
Reduzierung des Restes der GehaltsZahlungen
ebenfalls in die EntscheidungsFindung
eingegangen ist - mein ArbeitGeber konnte
ja nichts von der Existenz meines Kardiologen
ahnen, der mir die richtigen RatSchläge zum
Weiterleben gegeben hat! Die Wette gegen mein
Leben ist also nicht aufgegangen.

Tja - und im Moment - also die letzten zu
erwartenden 39 ArbeitsTage - geniesse ich
diesen Status - es ist ja wie bei der BundesWehr:
Es kann, aus dem Beruflichen heraus, nichts mehr
passieren. Ich könnte mir sogar für die letzten
39 Tage eine Krankheit zulegen - aber das ist
nicht mein Ding: Ich will noch soviel wie möglich
vom Untergang des IndustrieMuseums mit ansehen.

Herwig

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And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-09 23:58 +0200
  Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-09 22:35 +0000
    Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-10 02:40 +0200
  Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-07-10 00:54 +0200
    Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-10 02:46 +0200
      Re: And the winner is ... Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-07-10 10:21 +0200
        Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 10:41 +0200
          Re: And the winner is ... Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-07-10 11:02 +0200
            Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-10 11:27 +0200
            Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 11:32 +0200
              Re: And the winner is ... rhartmann@trash-mail.com (Reiner Hartmann) - 2016-07-10 12:42 +0200
              Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-10 12:55 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-07-10 12:58 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-10 14:11 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-07-10 14:13 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-10 14:36 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-07-10 14:41 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-10 14:45 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 14:50 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-10 21:02 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 11:58 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-11 16:57 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-07-11 20:07 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-11 22:25 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-11 22:47 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-12 09:26 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-14 07:39 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-07-14 08:08 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 15:59 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-07-12 10:34 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 17:39 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-07-12 18:18 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 17:27 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 08:35 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 17:43 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 12:07 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 21:09 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-07-13 18:29 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 18:42 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-13 18:50 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 20:36 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 12:00 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 21:20 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 13:23 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 14:26 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <da_lodda@gmx.de> - 2016-07-14 06:05 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 16:06 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 14:41 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-15 17:58 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-13 22:02 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 14:54 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-08-01 23:25 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-08-01 21:44 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-08-02 12:39 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-08-02 03:57 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-08-02 12:49 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-08-03 12:06 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-08-03 14:11 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-08-03 14:29 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-08-03 14:53 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-08-03 15:08 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-08-03 15:21 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-08-03 06:05 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-13 23:19 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-14 01:31 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-14 00:25 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 15:03 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 22:24 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 22:49 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-07-13 07:37 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-07-13 10:51 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 02:00 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 17:47 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 08:52 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-13 17:17 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-07-13 20:39 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 11:53 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Karsten Düsterloh <trash@tprac.de> - 2016-07-13 21:38 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-13 22:03 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Peter Mc Donough <mcd-mail-lists@gmx.net> - 2016-07-14 12:34 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-07-14 19:23 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-14 10:42 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-14 23:40 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-15 20:19 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-16 00:12 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-16 16:33 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-16 20:45 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Gerald Gruner <gerald314@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-16 15:54 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-18 00:56 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-15 20:23 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-15 20:29 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-13 10:16 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-13 12:35 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-07-11 18:33 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 18:48 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-11 22:31 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-11 22:50 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-12 09:39 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-07-12 16:51 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 17:51 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 15:18 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-07-14 15:52 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 16:27 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <da_lodda@gmx.de> - 2016-07-14 07:58 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 17:09 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-15 02:48 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-07-15 05:04 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-15 18:03 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-15 09:10 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-15 18:17 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-15 09:25 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-07-15 16:36 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-15 09:48 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Goetz Schultz <goetz@-delete-suelze.de> - 2016-07-15 18:00 +0100
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-18 00:53 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-15 23:52 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Hartmut Ott <hottm@arcor.de> - 2016-07-16 03:04 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-07-16 05:21 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-16 09:28 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 22:02 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 22:41 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 08:05 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-11 17:41 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Karsten Düsterloh <trash@tprac.de> - 2016-07-11 22:57 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Bernd Ullrich <ullrich_bernd@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-11 23:12 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2016-07-12 08:08 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-12 07:08 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-12 00:55 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2016-07-13 08:26 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-13 12:38 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-08-01 22:57 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 12:58 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-10 13:20 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 13:13 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-10 13:22 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 11:48 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-10 13:59 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 18:51 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 19:06 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-07-10 22:52 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 18:26 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 18:44 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 19:15 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 19:29 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Ricardo Szabo <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2016-07-10 19:44 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 19:55 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-07-10 20:02 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-07-10 23:23 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-11 00:12 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 20:03 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 20:11 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 20:19 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-11 09:26 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-11 08:54 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 10:22 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 03:29 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 12:36 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 11:37 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 13:46 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 12:07 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-11 12:23 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 13:13 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-11 11:48 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 12:08 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2016-07-11 14:40 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-11 13:35 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2016-07-11 15:47 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Dieter.Sp@gmx.de - 2016-07-11 09:18 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-11 16:55 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dieter.Sp@gmx.de - 2016-07-12 22:43 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 10:02 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 01:20 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-13 10:13 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-12 00:13 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Bernd Mayer <beam.bam.boom@knuut.de> - 2016-07-11 17:17 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-07-11 20:13 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-11 11:08 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 01:59 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-10 23:18 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-11 22:48 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-07-10 23:20 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 07:31 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Willi Marquart <usenet@neppi.net> - 2016-07-11 08:44 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 07:27 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 09:43 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 07:52 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 09:54 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 08:42 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 10:31 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 01:36 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Willi Marquart <usenet@neppi.net> - 2016-07-11 10:55 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 10:10 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-07-11 10:50 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 10:55 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-07-11 14:32 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 14:45 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 13:15 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-12 02:19 +0200
          Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-10 11:35 +0200
            Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 11:37 +0200
              Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-10 12:17 +0200
            Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 09:56 +0000
          Re: And the winner is ... Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-07-10 11:37 +0200
            Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 11:39 +0200
              Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-10 21:02 +0200
          Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 09:56 +0000
            Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 12:07 +0200
              Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 11:04 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 11:48 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-07-10 13:51 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 13:56 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 13:15 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 13:22 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-07-10 15:29 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 13:36 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 14:08 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 14:14 +0000
    Re: And the winner is ... rhartmann@trash-mail.com (Reiner Hartmann) - 2016-07-10 13:03 +0200
      Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-10 21:02 +0200
  Re: And the winner is ... rhartmann@trash-mail.com (Reiner Hartmann) - 2016-07-10 12:14 +0200
    Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-10 13:29 +0200
      Re: And the winner is ... Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-07-10 15:57 +0200
  Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-12 12:21 +0200
    Re: And the winner is ... Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-07-12 12:48 +0200

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