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Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi?

From Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.checkmate, alt.usenet.kooks, alt.fan.cyberchicken
Subject Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi?
Date 2016-07-07 19:55 +0000
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On Thu, 07 Jul 2016 14:26:36 +0100, Bill Jillians wrote:

> In message <qeqfz.23$y32.1@fx02.iad>, BBB DoW #14
> <r0llinThru@none.invalid> writes
>>Bill Jillians <willaim.jillians649@btinternet.com> wrote: //
>>>I actually read that.  And for the shear hell of it I'm gonna reply.
>>>People in this newsgroup like to pin labels on people ... such and such
>>>is a kook or behaving kookily.
>>
>>errr... not-so-much "labels" more like behavioral separation. And it is
>>everywhere in Usenet froups - some members taking the radical step of
>>kill-files in avoiding contact. It is quite usual to find that
>>'strategy' does not work with the full blown oxygen wasting k00k.
>>Derbyshire being an example which is right in yer face in the Topic :-/
>>So forget your insinuation AUK is different in *that* way.
> 
> Oh I realise that.  My personal approach is to try to treat everyone I
> meet with respect.

How refreshing.

> It doesn't always work but personally I don't wait until somebody earns
> my respect.  Very few people will want to do that anyway ... probably
> because they don't think I'm worth it.  But anyway I find that few
> people want to get in my face ... possibly because I have no desire to
> get in theres and I look sufficiently imposing for people not to risk
> it.  Checkmate wants to stay away from me ... and he is probably the
> person I am on least good terms with. I suppose that is a form of
> respect.
> 
>>>But in real life away from Usenet it is a phrase you hardly ever hear.
>>>People in real life do not dedicate their waking hours to pursuing
>>>kooks or calling people kooks.
>>>
>>no..??.. well we(tinw) are yet to establish your actual world view
>>dependant on your locale buuut I can tell you quite confidently in my
>>travels through Europe, Africa, the US and many parts of Micronesia
>>there is definitely social segregation of ...let's say,, "the cerebrally
>>ignoble".
> 
> Sure ... I usually end up talking to people like that ... but it isn't
> always enjoyable.  All some people like that want is someone to talk to.
> And sadly they don't get it.
> 
>>In my part of Aussie that group is labeled "hoppys",, as in being
>>separate to loonies and spastics. True,, one does not bother with
>>"pursuing" such specimens buuut one does avoid them like the plague.
>>Life is too short to be held up listening to manic rants on topics one
>>really only requires a broad knowledge of to form an opinion.. hoppys
>>dedicate every waking hour to microexamination of their particular bent.
> 
> Well some people are better off than others.  I don't much like social
> situations with strangers.  But I'm sure we all have our quirks and
> idiosyncrasies.

Some more than others. "BBB DoW #14" more than all 7.9 billion of those 
others, *combined*.

<snicker>

> I think the thing about groups like AUK is some people try to make
> things worse for others who are perceived as different or defective.
> Well my response to that is none of us is perfect and most people are
> far from perfect.
> 
>>Yours being some imagined authority on gold movements.. heh[smirk]
> 
> Ha ha.  Well enough on that subject (almost).  I am invested in a gold
> mining company called Randgold who have several goldmines in the Sahara.
> I bought some shares and the price went down.  Then on the day of Brexit
> they shot up so 2 days later I sold them.  They dithered and I almost
> rebought them at a lower price.  Then they shot up again almost as far
> as they had after Brexit leaving me way behind.  Yesterday I bought back
> in after a week of rising prices each day, in which I expected them to
> come down again.  There is no telling where they will end up but I think
> they may be at their height now.  Mind you I thought that every day last
> week. They came down a bit today so I hope they don't screw me over
> again now I have bought back.  All it will take is bad jobs figures for
> the USA tomorrow and I should be making some sort of profit again. Sorry
> ... it is imagined authority as nobody knows what will happen and most
> of the predictions so far have been way off.
>
>>>Kooks are purely a USENET invention to further break people apart and
>>>separate us into an us and them situation.  The fact that hardly anyone
>>>can agree as to who is a kook and who is not is further evidence of the
>>>superficiality of this distinction.
>>>
>>when you insist on asking/accepting guidance from a k00k what else can
>>you expect as a   v a c a n t   space in yer education..? You really
>>believe said k00k(s) find AUK all by themselves?
> 
> As I said I think "kook" is a convenient label for someone who doesn't
> fit on.  That is all of us under appropriate criteria.

Speak for yourself.

<snicker>

>>In my whole recollection there is not a single k00k today posting in AUK
>>who was not dragged here frothin' and foamin' in demented indignation.
>>gweggles and Duurbs being fine examples of that recruitment. Th0.. I
>>qualify the result in gweggles case as that dude is is just a very
>>malcontent malicious tr0LLr.
> 
> I suppose this place does attract people who are very different.  But if
> everyone is very different then how can you say somebody doesn't fit in?
>
>>>Personally I am a unifier.
>>
>> "Personally" yer a wholly certifiable phuckup IF you truly believe
>> that.
>
> I didn't say I was capable of it.  It is what I believe in. A
> little kindness never hurt anyone.
>
>>"k00k" does not quite fit your work.. I am persuaded to accept yer more
>>representative of those skitzoid types found in the *.depression 
>>*.welfare  type froups. IMO OMMV
>>
>>>  Therefore I propose that the whole idea of kooks in AUK be scrapped
>>>  and
>>>a more realistic real world picture be adopted.
>>
>>just for your ...errr, 'benefit' I reiterate what was posted as a guide.
>>
>>       #Not to be assimilated/confused with tr0LLs,, the #k00k is wholly
>>       focused on their view being the only #"correct" outlook.
>>       #They are never wrong and someone should do something #about
>>       (whatever) being wrong.
>>
>>>There isn't even a good definition of what a kook is ... is there?
>>
>> "good" is subjective.
>>identifying and corralling a k00k is always evidential. albeit the
>>specimen supplies the evidence voluntarily and alone... no 'help'
>>required.
> Well it is evidence that I am blind to in that case.
>>
>>make an effort to be objective and rank yourself.
>> - your view is k00k is not defined (despite evidence to the contrary)
>>- you propose k00k be abolished (yet offer no alternative
>>                                       solution for froups)
>> - you refuse to provide evidence for your statements (you wont be told)
>> - you bait and switch on posters for your amusement (and whine when
>>                                                               bettered)
>>... what's the chance you are indeed a k00k?
>>
>>jes FTR...
>>as with that "Ellis Dee" sock I gave the topic a shot in all
>>seriousness. It is my preference not to suffer fools... so I extend to
>>you that same courtesy I allowed "Ellis Dee"... think before you hit
>>"followup-to". I do not do "second chance" :/
> Fools are a fact of life.  Where you going to go to escape them ...
> Mars?

An excellent idea. Hey, murphy, I hear Mars One* might still be seeking 
volunteers. You really should consider signing up.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_One

>>also FTR... I posted the cmsg for AUK not so long back. IF that does not
>>tell you I have been part of AUK operations since the beginning then you
>>do prove ownership of   v a c a n t   space. I am not "in" AUK as
>>such... through arrangement and help from those willing AUK "good guys"
>>I am able to operate remotely. Largely it has always been that way, an
>>exception is the period immediately following the Novins k00s00t whereon
>>I did run personas in AUK,, as is the accepted practice for that froup.
>>
>>end of....
>
> I don't know who are the "good guys" and who aren't.

One clue to help sort such matters out: see who else treats new people 
with respect by default, and who with paranoia and suspicion or a snooty 
better-than-thou attitude at best, outright nastiness at worst.

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Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? BBB DoW #14 <r0llinThru@none.invalid> - 2016-07-06 22:43 +1000
  Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-06 19:21 +0000
    Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? BBB DoW #14 <r0llinThru@none.invalid> - 2016-07-07 20:33 +1000
      Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-07 19:24 +0000
  Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? Bill Jillians <willaim.jillians649@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-07 06:49 +0100
    Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? BBB DoW #14 <r0llinThru@none.invalid> - 2016-07-07 20:33 +1000
      Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? BBB DoW #14 <r0llinThru@none.invalid> - 2016-07-07 06:14 -0500
        Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-07-07 05:53 -0700
          Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-07-12 11:39 +0100
        Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? Bill Jillians <willaim.jillians649@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-07 17:18 +0100
          Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-07 19:48 +0000
      Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? Bill Jillians <willaim.jillians649@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-07 14:26 +0100
        Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? BBB DoW #14 <r0llinThru@none.invalid> - 2016-07-08 00:37 +1000
          Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? Bill Jillians <willaim.jillians649@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-07 16:13 +0100
            Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-07 19:58 +0000
            Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? BBB DoW #14 <r0llinThru@none.invalid> - 2016-07-08 13:14 +1000
              Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? Bill Jillians <willaim.jillians649@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-08 10:24 +0100
                Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? BBB DoW #14 <r0llinThru@none.invalid> - 2016-07-08 21:26 +1000
                Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? Bill Jillians <willaim.jillians649@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-08 15:21 +0100
                Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-08 20:07 +0000
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        Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-07 19:55 +0000
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        Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? BBB DoW #14 <r0llinThru@none.invalid> - 2016-07-08 13:11 +1000
          Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? Bill Jillians <willaim.jillians649@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-08 10:27 +0100
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        Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus, DoW #1" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-07-08 06:03 +0200
          Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? Skeeter DoW #8 <skt@skt.invalid> - 2016-07-08 02:23 -0600
            Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus, DoW #1" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-07-09 07:46 +0200
              Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus, DoW #1" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-07-09 10:45 +0200
                Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-09 20:13 +0000
                Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus, DoW #1" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-07-10 07:00 +0200
                Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-11 00:07 +0000
                Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus, DoW #1" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-07-11 07:24 +0200
                Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-11 20:47 +0000
                Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus, DoW #1" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-07-10 06:09 +0200
                Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus, DoW #1" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-07-10 07:05 +0200
          Re: Why does everyone love Nads and Kensi? Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-08 19:27 +0000
            Re: Why does everyone love Nads and Kensi? "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus, DoW #1" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-07-09 06:41 +0200
              Re: Why does everyone love Nads and Kensi? Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-09 20:14 +0000
                Re: Why does everyone love Nads and Kensi? "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-07-09 13:33 -0700
                Re: Why does everyone love Nads and Kensi? "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus, DoW #1" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-07-09 22:33 +0200
                Re: Why does everyone love Nads and Kensi? Skeeter DoW #8 <skt@skt.invalid> - 2016-07-09 15:36 -0600
                Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus, DoW #1" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-07-10 05:59 +0200
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                Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? "LOL TerribleTard" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-07-10 09:30 +0200
                Re: look how i made him flip out again. Skeeter DoW #420 <skt@skt.invalid> - 2016-07-10 03:53 -0600
                Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-10 22:34 +0000
                Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus, DoW #1" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-07-11 07:49 +0200
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                Re: Nads Skeeter DoW #420 <skt@skt.invalid> - 2016-07-09 20:22 -0600
                Re: Nads Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-10 02:37 +0000
                Re: Nads Skeeter DoW #420 <skt@skt.invalid> - 2016-07-09 20:45 -0600
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                Re: Why does everyone love Nads and Kensi? "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus, DoW #1" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-07-10 05:35 +0200
                Re: Why does everyone love Nads and Kensi? Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus, DoW #1 <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx.bum> - 2016-07-10 01:11 -0500
              Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus, DoW #1" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-07-10 05:43 +0200
              Re: Why does everyone love Nads and Kensi? BBB DoW #14 <r0llinThru@none.invalid> - 2016-07-15 21:25 +1000
      Re: Why does everyone love Nads and Kensi? Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-07 19:47 +0000
        Re: Why does everyone love Nads and Kensi? "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-07-07 13:45 -0700
          Re: Why does everyone love Nads and Kensi? Skeeter DoW #8 <skt@skt.invalid> - 2016-07-07 14:49 -0600
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  Re: Why does everyone hate Nads and Kensi? BBB DoW #14 <r0llinThru@none.invalid> - 2016-07-07 20:32 +1000
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