Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations

From	rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations
Date	2016-07-05 10:06 -0400
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On 7/5/2016 5:28 AM, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 1:33:45 AM UTC-7, al...@rivadpm.com wrote:
>> On 05/07/16 00:57, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> This RfD promotes the "quotations" that Bernd Paysan wrote the code for. Bernd Paysan was unwilling to put his name on the RfD however, presumably because he was ashamed of having faked the quotations (he knows as well as everybody else that quotations need to have access to the parent function's local variables). So, Alex McDonald put his name on the RfD. This was supposed to be a slam-dunk from a ladder for Alex McDonald as the RfD was pre-approved by Leon Wagner and was guaranteed to be accepted into Forth-200x. Then suddenly, at the height of his glory, Alex McDonald disappeared. For several months we didn't hear anything from him, but now suddenly he has reappeared again. Most likely he was in jail; that is the obvious explanation. Now Anton Ertl has taken over the RfD and won't give it back to Alex McDonald again.
>>>
>>
>> Unlike your piggy squealing about your name being on something you don't like being libelous, the above *is* defamation. Please withdraw it immediately, and do not repeat it.
>>
>> --
>> Alex
>
> All of this is true:
> 1.) The quotation code (lacking access to the parent function's locals) was written by Bernd Paysan (Forth-200x committee member).
> 2.) The RfD was pretty much a word-by-word copy of the article written by Stephen Pelc (Forth-200x committee member).
> 3.) The author of the RfD was Alex McDonald, representing himself as a member of the Forth community for the obvious purpose of enhancing the grass-roots image of Forth-200x.
> 4.) Given the total support of the Forth-200x committee (Bernd Paysan, Stephen Pelc and Anton Ertl), the RfD was guaranteed to be accepted (a "slam-dunk from a ladder").
> 5.) Alex McDonald suddenly disappeared for several months, leaving the RfD in limbo.
> 6.) Alex McDonald suddenly reappeared and simultaneously Anton Ertl (Forth-200x committee chair-person) said that he would take over the RfD himself.
>
> As for whether you were in jail during those several months, that is just speculation, but it seems like an obvious explanation. Where else could you have been that didn't provide you with internet access? Of course, there are other explanations for where you disappeared to --- maybe you went to Barsoom to rescue John Carter and the princess --- there is no internet on Barsoom.
>
> Why are you in this thread devoted to the quotations RfD when you are no longer the author of the RfD? If you don't say where you disappeared to, Anton Ertl is not going to give you back your RfD --- just forget about the RfD --- go back to telling me that I'm incompetent as a Forth programmer, as that seems to be your favorite sport.
>
> If you admit that you were in jail, Anton Ertl will likely give you back the RfD. If you refuse to say where you where, then this is the same as saying that you simply got bored with Forth-200x and pursued another hobby for a while. In this case, Anton Ertl is certainly not going to give you your RfD back --- he needs somebody to be the author of the RfD who is committed to supporting Forth-200x and who won't wander off to pursue another hobby. Anton Ertl can forgive you for getting thrown in jail --- I mean, who among us has never been in jail? --- but Anton Ertl can't forgive you for being uncommitted to Forth-200x.

Wow!  Not only does he not make a simple retraction, he repeats the 
claim!  High drama in c.l.f...

-- 

Rick C

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3rd RfD: Quotations anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-01 16:10 +0000
  Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-01 11:21 -0700
    Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 11:58 -0700
      Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-01 12:53 -0700
        Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 16:05 -0400
          Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-07-01 19:00 -0500
            Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-01 18:22 -0700
              Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-07-01 21:16 -0500
              Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Wasell <from_usenet@wasell.eu> - 2016-07-02 13:04 +0200
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-07-02 09:39 -0500
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Alex McDonald <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2016-07-02 16:33 +0100
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-07-02 11:50 -0500
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 10:45 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 19:24 -0400
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-07-03 11:48 +0100
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-03 07:08 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 11:49 -0400
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-04 08:25 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-04 16:57 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-07-05 07:40 +0100
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-05 01:38 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations alex@rivadpm.com - 2016-07-05 01:33 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-05 02:28 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 10:06 -0400
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Alex McDonald <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2016-07-05 20:57 +0100
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-07-06 00:12 +0300
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Alex McDonald <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2016-07-05 22:45 +0100
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-07-06 10:50 +0300
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-07-06 03:31 -0500
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-08 09:07 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-07-04 21:08 +0100
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-04 09:10 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Alex McDonald <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2016-07-02 19:24 +0100
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-02 16:19 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 23:18 -0400
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-02 21:54 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 03:10 -0400
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Alex McDonald <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2016-07-03 09:35 +0100
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 19:19 -0400
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-03 01:45 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 11:52 -0400
            Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 19:10 -0400
              Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-07-02 13:27 -1000
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-02 16:54 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 23:27 -0400
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-08-05 00:30 +0000
        Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-07-08 21:15 +1000
          Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-08 07:39 -0700
            Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-07-09 17:08 +1000
              Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-07-08 23:22 -1000
      Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-07-08 20:42 +1000
    Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Alex McDonald <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2016-07-01 21:51 +0100
  Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-01 17:57 -0700
  Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-01 18:47 -0700
  Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-02 07:55 -0700
  Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-04 17:03 -0700
    Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations alex@rivadpm.com - 2016-07-05 01:38 -0700
    Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 10:16 -0400
      Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-05 10:48 -0700
        Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2016-07-05 20:18 +0200
      Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-08-05 00:42 +0000
        Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations julian.fondren@endurance.com - 2016-08-04 19:44 -0700
  Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-06 21:01 -0700
    Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-07 07:54 +0000
    Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-08 08:17 -0700
      Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-08 08:41 -0700
        Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Julian Fondren <ayrnieu@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 10:21 -0700
    Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2016-07-08 14:29 -0700
      Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-08 22:28 -0700
        Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2016-07-09 03:56 -0700
          Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-09 09:51 -0700
          Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-13 01:25 -0700
            Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-13 01:56 -0700
            Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-13 02:09 -0700
            Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-13 14:04 +0000
            Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-14 00:32 -0700
              Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 01:25 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-16 14:52 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-16 20:25 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-18 12:46 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 14:38 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-18 16:03 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-18 17:27 -0700
              Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2016-07-14 02:46 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-15 08:33 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-15 16:59 +0000
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 23:30 -0700
                Universal Delimiters - was Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2016-07-16 02:42 -0700
                Re: Universal Delimiters - was Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 05:47 -0700
                Re: Universal Delimiters - was Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2016-07-16 15:41 +0200
                Re: Universal Delimiters - was Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2016-07-16 07:16 -0700
                Re: Universal Delimiters - was Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2016-07-16 07:27 -0700
                Re: Universal Delimiters - was Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 09:52 -0700
                Re: Universal Delimiters - was Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2016-07-16 11:46 -0700
                Re: Universal Delimiters - was Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-07-17 03:11 -0700
                Re: Universal Delimiters - was Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-07-17 03:18 -0700
                Re: Universal Delimiters - was Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-07-17 03:47 -0700
                Re: Universal Delimiters - was Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2016-07-17 05:43 -0700
                Re: Universal Delimiters - was Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-07-17 06:00 -0700
                Re: Universal Delimiters - was Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-07-17 08:32 -0700
                Re: Universal Delimiters - was Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-17 23:49 -0700
                Re: Universal Delimiters - was Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 00:39 -0700
                Re: Universal Delimiters - was Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 07:57 -0700
                Re: Universal Delimiters - was Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2016-07-18 12:18 +0200
                Re: Universal Delimiters - was Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 04:04 -0700
        Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-10 21:23 -0700
      Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2016-07-09 14:30 +0200
        Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations mhx@iae.nl - 2016-07-09 05:51 -0700
          Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-07-09 09:01 -0500
            Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2016-07-09 07:40 -0700
              Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-07-09 12:27 -0500
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-09 11:24 -0700
              Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-30 02:03 -0700
          Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-09 14:36 +0000
  Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Håkan Thörngren <hth313@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 12:58 -0700
    Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 21:59 -0700
      Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-09 23:11 -0700
        Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 00:14 -0700
          Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-12 01:06 -0700
            Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2016-07-12 05:31 -0700
              Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-12 09:00 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2016-07-13 03:44 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-13 11:36 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-13 23:03 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 01:23 -0700
              Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-07-12 08:57 -1000
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-12 22:53 -0700
        Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-11 01:09 +0000
          Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-10 18:18 -0700
            Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-11 01:35 -0700
          Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 18:18 -0700
          Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-11 08:24 +0000
      Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-10 06:53 +0000
        Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Håkan Thörngren <hth313@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 00:53 -0700
          Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-10 16:57 +0000
        Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2016-07-10 02:26 -0700
          Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2016-07-10 06:49 -0700
            Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-10 11:04 -0700
              Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2016-07-10 12:51 -0700
                Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2016-07-10 13:21 -0700
              Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 13:23 -0700
  3rd RfD: Quotations anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-28 16:56 +0000
    Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-28 16:29 -0700
      Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-29 00:50 +0000
      Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-08-11 12:15 -0700
        Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 13:25 -0700
          Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-08-11 20:57 -0700
        Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 13:59 -0700
          Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-08-11 21:11 -0700
            Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 00:30 -0700
            Re: 3rd RfD: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-08-12 11:05 -0700

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