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Re: BJ Believes

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: BJ Believes
Date 2016-06-09 10:49 -0500
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On 6/8/2016 4:27 PM, benj wrote:
> On 06/08/2016 04:40 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
>> On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 11:59:37 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> On 6/3/2016 9:27 AM, benj wrote:
>>>> So you think (sorry counselor, you are arguing) that single
>>>> celled critters are as advanced as humans? That's insane. The
>>>> word was progress and the definition was (why do you love
>>>> references unless they are the dictionary? Your own head is NOT a
>>>> reference dictionary! The definition was "higher, better, or more
>>>> advanced". IT's simple nonsense to say that primitive lifeforms
>>>> are as advanced as complex humans or animals such as mammals.
>>>> That is an insane argument.
>>>>
>>>> One does not need "references" for obvious facts. No it is not
>>>> dark outside Boinker, it's high noon and the sun is shining but I
>>>> don't have a book to prove it.
>>>
>>> You might be interested in a group of donkeys GRIEVING over the
>>> death of one of the herd. Oh yeah, animals just operate from raw
>>> survival instinct and emotional responses are purely human.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuxrhiicesU
>>
>> He either won't look, or will claim it's CGI or some such bullshit.
>> BJ simply can not fit the fact of animal emotions into his
>> religion-based worldview.
>
> And the way you know what I'll claim and that I have a religion-based
> world view and that I won't view the video (I did) would be how? What
> scientific method did you use? Excuse me if I suspect that you gained
> all these facts out of HVAC posts and are now into pseudoscience
> attempting to pass these lies off as actual science. I thought you knew
> more about the scientific method than this?
>
> As I already stated, you are looking at donkey behavior and are
> interpreting what they are doing from your own human viewpoint. The
> donkeys can't tell you what they are REALLY doing and "feeling".

It's rather fascinating to me that you make the comment that, regardless 
of what books say, evolution does claim that some species are more 
"advanced" than others and that it is "obvious" that humans are more 
advanced than, say, donkeys in an evolutionary sense. This you say is a 
fact that is so obvious that it doesn't need validation. And here 
looking at a video of donkey behavior which (to me) looks highly 
emotional as an obvious fact, and suddenly you think this fact isn't 
obvious at all unless the animal communicates in a language we understand.

I think you speak out of both sides of your mouth.

>
> However, in spite of your bogus assertions that I would reject this
> behavior as fake I can recall my father telling of two horses they had
> and one died. The other one went prancing around like colt looking for
> the dead one and then found the body and came slowly to the barn head
> down etc. My father also interpreted that as grief as well. But was it?
> What is known is that the second horse never regained its zip and died a
> few months later.
>
> I also mentioned an ape actually expressing sympathy for a woman who
> lost her baby.
>
> But if you are going to talk science thinking that all animals are just
> like humans and talk and wear clothes like they do in Disney films is
> just non-scientific nonsense. "kook" is the word I believe certain
> people here use.
>
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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