Re: BJ Believes

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: BJ Believes
Date	2016-06-03 06:56 -0500
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On 6/2/2016 7:09 PM, benj wrote:
> On 06/02/2016 07:01 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 6/2/2016 5:48 PM, benj wrote:
>>> On 06/02/2016 12:34 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 6/2/2016 11:03 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>> On 06/02/2016 11:28 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Animals also exhibit sacrificial altruistic behavior. They also
>>>>>> demonstrate behaviors consistent with a sense of fairness. Are you
>>>>>> unaware of this?
>>>>>
>>>>> They are just influenced by human owners which in turn are operating
>>>>> under their religious beliefs. Wild animals don't do this. It's all
>>>>> instinct.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ben, you are talking out of your ass. And an ignorant ass, to boot.
>>>> Unless you are just saying shit you know is wrong, for baiting
>>>> purposes.
>>>
>>> You are determined not to understand the basis of your own beliefs!
>>> I thought you were interested in science?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Ben, there is nothing in science that says what you claim. In fact,
>> scientific observations are counter to your claim. What you claim is
>> just flat bullshit, out and out, and you have yet to even ATTEMPT to
>> defend it.
>
> So you are trying to defend that animals have morality and that animals
> can sin?

Replacing one strawman with another. Animals in the wild exhibit 
sacrificial altruism and behavior reflecting an awareness of fairness, 
things you claim cannot exist.

> Wow! And then have the nerve to say that nothing in science
> says that animals kill, steal, lie, take mates and so forth? What world
> do you live in?

Again, not going to react to black-white strawmen. Note that people 
kill, steal, like, take mates, and in these respects are no different 
than OTHER animals.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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BJ Believes HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-29 06:27 -0700
  BJ Believes john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-05-29 06:43 -0700
    BJ Believes HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-29 06:54 -0700
      Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-29 12:58 -0400
      Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 09:15 -0500
        Re: BJ Believes HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 07:18 -0700
          Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-31 10:45 -0400
            Re: BJ Believes HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 07:51 -0700
              Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-31 12:13 -0400
        Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-31 10:54 -0400
          Re: BJ Believes HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 08:14 -0700
            Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-31 12:18 -0400
          Re: BJ Believes HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 08:19 -0700
            Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-31 12:20 -0400
              Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 11:38 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-31 14:38 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 13:49 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-01 00:24 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 09:36 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-01 13:01 -0400
          Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 10:43 -0500
            Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-31 12:27 -0400
              Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 11:48 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-31 15:10 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 12:37 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 14:50 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 17:32 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-01 01:12 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 03:45 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 05:43 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 11:06 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-01 00:45 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-01 00:27 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 03:34 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-01 12:54 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 14:48 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-01 00:43 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 09:36 -0500
    Re: BJ Believes ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-05-29 14:25 -0500
      Re: BJ Believes "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-05-29 13:50 -0700
  Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-29 12:48 -0400
    Re: BJ Believes "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 11:34 -0700
      Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-01 20:41 -0400
        Re: BJ Believes "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 18:03 -0700
          Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-01 22:12 -0400
            Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 10:28 -0500
              Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-02 12:03 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 11:34 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-02 18:48 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 18:01 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-02 20:09 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 20:17 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-03 00:45 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 05:02 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-03 09:47 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 07:08 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-03 10:45 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 06:56 -0500
            Re: BJ Believes "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 15:15 -0700
              Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-02 19:41 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 21:38 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-03 03:13 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 07:21 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 05:50 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 08:00 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 06:51 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 08:53 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-03 10:20 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 09:24 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-03 10:54 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 08:41 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-03 14:21 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 10:48 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 09:01 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-03 14:32 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 13:58 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 15:02 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-03 23:53 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 06:08 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-03 13:50 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 14:26 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 07:44 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-03 14:18 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-03 09:57 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 09:07 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 07:23 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-03 10:45 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-03 10:35 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 07:55 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-03 14:19 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 10:41 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-03 13:42 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-03 09:51 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 09:00 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-03 10:27 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 10:26 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 13:59 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 13:40 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-08 21:11 +0000
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-08 17:38 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-08 22:50 +0000
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-08 20:34 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-06-08 19:21 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-09 02:43 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-09 02:34 +0000
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-09 02:48 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-09 16:34 +0000
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-08 17:27 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 21:16 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-09 03:38 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 01:56 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 06:38 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 07:23 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 10:49 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 09:13 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-08 17:07 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 16:16 -0500
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-08 17:41 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 14:53 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-08 20:28 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-06-08 19:21 -0700
                Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-09 02:41 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 13:30 -0700
        Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 20:10 -0500
          Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-01 22:14 -0400
            Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 10:28 -0500
              Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-02 12:05 -0400
                Re: BJ Believes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 11:36 -0500
        Re: BJ Believes HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 04:13 -0700
          Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-02 12:00 -0400
            Re: BJ Believes HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 09:38 -0700
              Re: BJ Believes benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-02 18:49 -0400
        Re: BenJacoby would have everyone believe in Santa Claus. benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-02 12:11 -0400
          Re: Jesus Christ and Santa Claus were invented for people like you. benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-02 19:07 -0400
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