Re: Increasing the size of Yellowstone while extracting geothermal Re: Yellowstone fully developed Re: And is geothermal 5,000 times superior to solar?

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Increasing the size of Yellowstone while extracting geothermal Re: Yellowstone fully developed Re: And is geothermal 5,000 times superior to solar?
Date	2016-04-25 06:35 -0500
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On 4/24/2016 4:53 PM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 3:37:41 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 4/24/2016 12:35 AM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
>>> Try reading my writings without assuming "I do not know". Your replies are far far in the category
>>> of believing I know almost nothing, and so your reply is going to fill in some blanks. Try reading
>>> my posts to improve your own mind, not reading my posts to "look for alleged gaps or holes in thought".
>>> You are a young and dumb person to continue on your present course of replies to me.
>>>
>>> To make you a better conversant, read what the person offers, what I offer, and if you disagree, just
>>> say-- disagree. Stop making replies that show your disdain and low opinion of me. Of course, you hide
>>> behind a fake name, so probably you will not heed any of my advice, since, if you cannot even post
>>> with your real name shows a lack of ability to be in science.
>>
>> I disagree with this statement, and I would suggest you take your own
>> advice about assuming anything about my scientific ability. In my
>> experience, people who post with their real names on a public internet
>> forum are playing with fire and are either foolhardy or naive. Secondly,
>> I think you should not confuse sci.physics with any forum where real
>> science is PERFORMED. That is not its purpose and scientists certainly
>> do not use sci.physics as a place to keep up with research.
>>
>
> No, if you are in science, means you are in for the truth, and never scared of the "public",never
> scared of others.

Then you will post your home address and bank account details here. No 
fear, right?

> The truth wills and wins out. If you have to use a fake name, science is not primary for you, but
> other things are more important to the fakester-- like attacking people.

No, not really. My motive for maintaining a nym are simple identity 
protection from people on the internet who like to steal identities and 
cause havoc in their lives. Perhaps you've had no experience with that. 
I have.

>
> There are situations where a fake name is required, such as in a oppressive environment, a
> oppressive government. But Odd is not living in such a environment to be forced to use a fake name.

Oh, but I am.

Perhaps you can walk in the Bronx with $10 bills hanging out of our 
pocket, feeling no fear of an "oppressive environment".

Be cautious about judging, Mr. Plutonium.

>
>
>>>
>>> The National Park system is in the Executive branch of government and can easily be changed as to
>>> the purpose and use of the parks. In fact, the purpose and use of our parks is changing all the
>>> time even if no president is changing the purpose.
>>
>> Nevertheless, the IUCN has as a firm requirement of National Parks the
>> following:
>> "Highest competent authority of the country has taken steps to prevent
>> or eliminate exploitation or occupation as soon as possible in the whole
>> area and to effectively enforce the respect of ecological,
>> geomorphological, or aesthetic features which have led to its establishment"
>>
>
> By building Geothermal stations in Yellowstone and with the money acquired for huge amounts of
> electricity, Yellowstone is able to buy up neighboring land for the park and to enclose the entire
> Park by fencing. All because of the money generated. Someday, Yellowstone could be the largest
> land bloc in the lower 48 and still have its scenery, its wild animals, and its wildnerness,
> save for electric plants and lines. It is better to have a few thousand workers at Yellowstone,
> than to have millions of tourists waddling through Yellowstone.

Please note the charge of the IUCN to "eliminate exploitation ... and to 
effectively enforce the respect of ... the aesthetic features". If you 
look at IUCN rules, you'll note that National Parks must be kept open to 
the public, not fenced off or restricted to workers. I just am floored 
that you are proposing that Yellowstone have its status as a National 
Park revoked. You know, surely, that Yellowstone is the oldest National 
Park in the country, and was in fact the lampholder for the National 
Park program in the first place?!

>
>
>>>
>>> What I was conveying was the idea that we can have both a beautiful pristine Yellowstone and have
>>> electric geothermal power stations there. That we can increase the size of Yellowstone and make it
>>> a better place.
>>
>> As I mentioned, conversion of private land to public land requires
>> compensation to the private land owner. There are provisions for private
>> landowners to sue if the government exerts eminent domain appropriation.
>>
>
> You are a depressant for new and better ideas. Why not be a "uplifting personality" rather than
> your depressant one.

Because, frankly, I disagree that it's a better idea. I think it's a 
terrible idea to use Yellowstone for geothermal energy, for a number of 
reasons.

>
>>>
>>> What you are conveying in most of your posts, is a disdain and low opinion of me. Yet, you are too
>>> young and dumb to realize it.
>>
>> And when you declare me "young and dumb", what kind of opinion are you
>> trying to convey to me?
>>
>> All I'm asking for you is to be aware of some well-documented facts.
>>
>
> No, all you are asking for is to "forever post replies to AP" saying what low opinion you have of
> him and how every idea of AP has to be wrong.

If you post something I disagree with, you are going to react bitterly 
at my disagreement?

>That is what you are playing, and yet you are too dumb
> to realize what you are playing. Dumbness usually, not always equates to being young and learning
> through time a wiser way of living. Show me a post of yours, that respects me, rather than puts me down.
>
> AP
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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