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Re: Which Books Can You Recommend For Learning Computer Programming?

From	Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers
Subject	Re: Which Books Can You Recommend For Learning Computer Programming?
Date	2016-04-11 17:22 -0500
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<neh7tu$c9e$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References	<nega05$cko$1@dont-email.me> <1169926522.482082008.403209.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>

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On 4/11/2016 10:43 AM, Peter Flass wrote:
> Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
>>
>>> Dan Espen wrote:
>>>> Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <MPG.316b7c2a14d4f4a698a077@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>>>> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Disaster is more likely to come
>>>>>> from not understanding that putting too much weight in the wrong place
>>>>>> can cause control problems than from not understanding what goes on in
>>>>>> the engine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh yes. Some drivers overload their car, because they (the drivers) are
>>>>> so obese. What do you expect when the government is doing everything
>>>>> thing the can do to increase obesity?
>>>>
>>>> Wow!
>>>>
>>>> Can only guess that you are blaming your own over eating on the
>>>> government.  No cops in my kitchen, how about you?
>>>
>>> If you obeyed what the government recommends you should eat, your
>>> weight would increase.
>>>
>>> /BAH
>>
>> Feel free to point out why:
>>
>> http://health.gov/dietaryguidelines/2015/guidelines/
>>
>> Here I am banging my head against a rock wall.
>>
>> For those that can actually read and understand things,
>> here are the recommended calories:
>>
>> http://health.gov/dietaryguidelines/2015/guidelines/appendix-2/
>>
>
> As others have said, the government giveth and the government taketh away.
> They give large subsidies to producers of sugar and corn (HFCS), so sweets
> are relatively cheaper than they should be.  It's like grocery coupons - I
> never see coupons for broccoli or kale, but always do for soda and potato
> chips.
>
Sorta. You're right about the subsidies. And the US govt (via the 
USDA) has historically pushed dairy and meat, which may have been 
useful a century ago but today is mostly to make the producers happy. 
But soda and chips tend to be national (or at least regional) brands, 
and the coupons may well be by the manufacturer. You don't see that 
with broccoli etc., where there usually isn't any national brand 
involved (or, if there is, the product is not seen as more valuable 
than that from the Miskatonic Grower's Association). I do see (usually 
store) coupons for some veggies though they tend to be for the more 
'value added' varieties (baby carrots, bagged salad, grape tomatoes, 
broccoli hearts). I suspect that the hassle and expense of doing 
coupons mitigates against them (as opposed to just putting the item on 
sale) at the retail end.

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