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Re: Which Books Can You Recommend For Learning Computer Programming?

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers
Subject	Re: Which Books Can You Recommend For Learning Computer Programming?
Date	2016-04-12 15:08 +1000
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"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:MPG.3176121ddfbe804a98a0bb@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <dn2qj5Fmn32U1@mid.individual.net>, 3899jk@gmail.com says...
>>
>> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.3175f7766854aa0198a0b9@news.eternal-september.org...
>> > In article <dn2anaFio9lU1@mid.individual.net>, 3899jk@gmail.com says...
>> >>
>> >> "Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> news:bmhstc-q78.ln1@sambook.reistad.name...
>> >> > In article <PM000530346BFD1637@aca4464e.ipt.aol.com>,
>> >> > jmfbahciv  <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>> >> >>Dan Espen wrote:
>> >> >>> Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> writes:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> In article 
>> >> >>>> <MPG.316b7c2a14d4f4a698a077@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> >> >>>>  "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> Disaster is more likely to come
>> >> >>>>> from not understanding that putting too much weight in the wrong
>> >> >>>>> place
>> >> >>>>> can cause control problems than from not understanding what goes 
>> >> >>>>> on
>> >> >>>>> in
>> >> >>>>> the engine.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Oh yes. Some drivers overload their car, because they (the 
>> >> >>>> drivers)
>> >> >>>> are
>> >> >>>> so obese. What do you expect when the government is doing 
>> >> >>>> everything
>> >> >>>> thing the can do to increase obesity?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Wow!
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Can only guess that you are blaming your own over eating on the
>> >> >>> government.  No cops in my kitchen, how about you?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>If you obeyed what the government recommends you should eat, your
>> >> >>weight would increase.
>> >> >
>> >> > The various governments we have are also very guilty of nudging our
>> >> > processed food towards a content of "very fast carbs", i.e. sugars 
>> >> > and
>> >> > starches, and this has supplanted vegs, fibers, proteins etc.
>> >> >
>> >> > This has been done all through the value chain, and even though many
>> >> > government agencies may feign innocence, the total amount of
>> >> > agricultural
>> >> > subsidies, agricultural regulations, food pricing and regulation 
>> >> > etc.
>> >> > and the purchase regimes for foods (through food stamps etc) all
>> >> > work towards this end.
>> >>
>> >> That isn't the same as "the government is doing
>> >> everything thing the can do to increase obesity"
>> >>
>> >> And agricultural regulation, food pricing and
>> >> regulation doesn?t increase obesity anyway.
>> >>
>> >> Its hard to argue that even food stamps do given that
>> >> the alternative is fast food which is much easier to
>> >> become obese with.
>> >
>> > How is "fast food" the "alternative to food stamps"?
>>
>> Its what a large part of the market eats, either
>> fast food or what they get using food stamps.

> How do they get it if they are so poor they qualify for food stamps?

With their income. Plenty of working people qualify for food stamps
and even those who don't get more than just food stamps. They have
to pay their rent, electricity, water etc.

>> > There seems to be this bizarre notion that people
>> > who can't afford to buy food in a grocery store
>>
>> We aren't talking about people who can't afford to buy food
>> in a grocery store, we are talking about what obese people eat.
>
> So which is it, are you on about people on food stamps or are you on
> about people who are well enough off to be able to buy food?

Plenty do both.

>> > can somehow afford to buy food at McDonalds.
>> > McDonalds is not _cheap_.
>>
>> It is in fact very affordable for almost everyone.
>
> Not for people who qualify for food stamps it isn't.

Yes it is. Plenty of people who get food stamps
work and get paid for what work they do.

And those who don't work don't just get food stamps.

>> And because it is so calorie rich, and because of the
>> 'supersize me' approach they take, is a large part of
>> the reason for the obesity epidemic.
>
> Perhaps it is

No perhaps about it.

> but this has nothing to do with food stamps.

We were discussing the original claim that the govt
is doing everything it can to increase obesity.

It clearly isnt when it hands out food stamps.

>> >> > So, yes, our governments are pretty much responsible
>> >> > for a lot of the population's weight gain.
>> >>
>> >> I still don?t buy your much more reduced claim.
>> >>
>> >> > Remember, eat your fish and carrots, like your mom told you to!
>> >>
>> >> Mine tried to make me eat broccoli and when she lost
>> >> that fight, wasn?t actually stupid enough to try that again.
>> >
>>
>
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