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| From | Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.usage.english |
| Subject | Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? |
| Date | 2026-08-12 06:15 +0100 |
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Le 11/08/2026 à 20:46, Sam Plusnet a écrit : > > Stories which portray Trump in a good light are rarely going to show up > in left-leaning US media - MS Now for example, (formerly MSNBC). > It is equally unlikely for anything which does not flatter Trump to show > up in right wing media. > > Those on the right who _do_ follow politics are going to see a carefully > curated version of the current White House. But but, Mr Trump's assertions are not self-consistent. He has, for example, repeatedly said, over months and months, that his war in Iran is nearly over: <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/when-will-the-iran-war-end-what-trump-has-said/> 2026-06-11 That article was published in June and here we are in August. Mr Trump's supporters don't need any other source. All they have to do is listen to him, and set the little grey cells in motion. I quoted from Orwell. Here he is again: "Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it. Parsons swallowed it easily, with the stupidity of an animal. The eyeless creature at the other table swallowed it fanatically, passionately, with a furious desire to track down, denounce, and vaporise anyone who should suggest that last week the ration had been thirty grams. Syme, too - in some more complex way, involving doublethink - Syme swallowed it." Are Trump's supporters just stupid or are they using doublethink?
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Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-10 08:16 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-10 08:02 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-10 10:21 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-10 21:32 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-11 07:00 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-11 17:45 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-11 15:19 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-11 20:46 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-08-11 16:40 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-12 06:15 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-12 15:26 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-12 09:49 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-12 09:57 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-12 15:25 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-12 20:38 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-12 22:28 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-13 01:02 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-13 08:37 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-13 10:39 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-13 21:05 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-13 11:54 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-13 14:26 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-13 17:11 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-13 21:58 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-14 08:22 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-14 11:53 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-14 21:26 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-14 20:48 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-13 22:40 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-08-13 09:56 -0700
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-08-13 10:16 -0700
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-13 21:06 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-13 19:14 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-14 08:02 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2026-08-14 15:05 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 09:30 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-14 19:56 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 10:17 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 07:42 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-15 05:31 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 20:36 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 16:45 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 17:27 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-15 22:22 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 20:20 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 09:11 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-16 08:37 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-16 10:15 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-16 10:55 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-16 11:03 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 20:52 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 11:43 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-15 01:59 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 22:08 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2026-08-17 11:51 -0400
Woke, wokest? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 07:38 +0200
Re: Woke, wokest? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-15 12:18 +0200
Re: Woke, wokest? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 20:44 +0200
Re: Woke, wokest? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-15 20:20 +0100
Re: Woke, wokest? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 09:18 +1000
Re: Woke, wokest? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-16 08:04 +0200
Re: Woke, wokest? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-16 09:25 +0200
Re: Woke, wokest? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-16 09:32 +0100
Re: Woke, wokest? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-15 22:29 +0100
Re: Woke, wokest? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-16 11:22 +0200
Re: Woke, wokest? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 20:54 +1000
Re: Woke, wokest? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-17 07:50 +0200
Re: Woke, wokest? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-17 21:36 +0100
Re: Woke, wokest? wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-17 22:38 +0000
Re: Woke, wokest? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-16 13:00 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-14 08:33 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 07:32 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-14 09:09 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-14 12:00 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-14 21:13 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-14 13:35 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-14 13:14 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-14 14:31 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-14 17:48 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-14 19:07 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-13 22:40 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-13 20:31 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-08-13 19:55 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 19:53 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-15 20:48 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-15 22:31 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-16 06:02 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 09:27 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-13 22:02 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-14 14:25 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-14 15:30 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-14 10:00 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-14 15:49 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-14 11:09 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-14 16:50 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 10:38 -0700
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-14 19:48 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-15 19:54 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 09:42 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 07:38 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 16:37 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 10:30 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-15 09:46 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-15 09:47 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 16:48 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 09:37 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-16 08:16 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-16 08:36 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-16 10:17 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-16 11:17 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-16 14:02 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-16 12:11 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 20:59 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 21:04 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-16 18:05 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-17 08:28 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-17 10:54 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-16 19:21 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-16 21:10 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-16 21:05 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-15 22:36 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 20:39 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-15 13:25 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 10:52 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-14 11:12 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-08-14 15:45 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-14 13:24 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-08-14 17:36 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-14 18:47 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-14 15:03 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 15:44 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 07:47 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 16:40 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 10:36 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 20:44 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 16:53 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 10:00 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-15 02:24 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 21:49 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 07:53 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-15 06:41 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-15 07:57 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 10:13 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 16:59 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-15 05:41 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-15 11:22 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-15 19:35 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 12:07 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-14 13:29 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 11:35 -0700
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-14 14:59 -0400
Cycle Helmets (was: Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-15 19:46 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 15:46 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 10:16 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-08-15 10:46 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 10:41 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-15 19:29 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 17:33 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-15 22:52 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 17:05 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-08-15 17:15 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-15 20:31 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 21:37 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-15 19:38 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 21:18 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-15 22:45 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 22:11 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-16 08:59 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-16 10:38 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-16 12:11 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-14 21:05 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-15 20:04 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 10:42 -0700
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-14 21:01 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-14 16:13 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 16:26 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 16:24 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-15 06:59 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-15 22:59 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-08-16 00:18 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 07:59 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 09:39 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 19:44 -0700
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 10:27 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 09:55 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 21:42 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-15 12:28 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-15 23:03 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-08-15 10:51 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 20:59 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-15 13:02 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-15 20:32 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-13 23:03 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-14 08:43 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-14 13:04 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-15 13:06 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-15 13:59 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-15 17:25 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-15 15:46 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-15 16:54 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-15 19:53 +0200
There was a crroked man and he stole a crooked straight Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-16 06:14 +0200
Re: There was a crroked man and he stole a crooked straight Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-16 21:14 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-15 21:28 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-15 23:10 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-16 03:17 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-08-16 18:42 +1200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2026-08-17 04:10 -0300
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-17 10:54 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-18 08:51 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-18 11:56 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-18 10:48 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-18 19:28 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-18 23:15 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2026-08-19 18:49 -0300
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-19 17:56 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-20 02:36 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-19 21:48 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-20 09:57 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-20 11:34 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-08-15 17:15 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 10:20 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-18 11:56 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-16 09:41 +0200
North and South Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 20:35 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-16 09:41 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-15 16:54 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-15 20:37 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-15 23:14 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 10:30 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-16 03:20 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-15 20:47 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-16 06:19 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-16 21:21 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-17 07:48 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-17 21:39 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-18 04:28 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-18 14:12 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-16 09:41 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-14 14:19 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-14 18:10 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-14 13:30 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 10:07 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-15 13:32 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 21:41 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-14 21:10 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 19:46 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 22:01 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-16 06:48 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-13 22:40 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-08-14 12:17 +0530
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-14 12:04 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-14 13:55 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-14 13:04 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-14 21:19 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-14 15:25 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-14 21:15 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 16:30 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 10:05 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 08:08 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-14 23:24 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 10:12 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-15 12:54 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 21:06 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-15 13:08 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 17:20 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-15 14:16 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-08-15 15:15 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 21:29 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-15 23:26 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 10:54 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-16 03:22 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-15 19:56 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-15 18:43 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-16 09:00 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-15 18:55 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-16 09:07 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 10:42 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-15 15:29 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 21:26 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-16 09:17 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-15 20:09 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 11:25 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 10:01 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 08:14 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-15 05:28 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-08-15 14:24 -0400
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-12 22:26 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-10 10:41 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-10 11:36 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-10 13:58 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-10 21:36 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-11 10:47 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-11 09:31 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-11 08:39 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-11 17:54 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-11 09:07 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-11 11:07 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-08-11 22:03 +1200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-11 10:53 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-10 13:11 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-10 15:41 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-11 10:52 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-11 06:52 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-11 10:53 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-11 20:33 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-08-11 10:45 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-11 10:32 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-11 15:56 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-11 21:02 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-11 22:53 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-12 11:09 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-12 20:14 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-12 11:24 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-13 14:45 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-12 10:40 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-13 15:09 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-12 14:59 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-12 22:40 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-12 22:38 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-10 14:22 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-10 16:26 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-11 11:21 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-10 11:05 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-10 11:48 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-10 17:30 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-10 21:42 +0100
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-11 11:58 +1000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-11 06:02 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-08-11 09:38 +0000
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-08-12 21:55 +0530
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-13 07:46 +0200
Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? "Mr. Chang Man-wai" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-08-13 02:46 +0800
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