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| From | DFS <nospam@dfs.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Developers Not Programmers |
| Date | 2016-03-25 11:11 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <nd3k89$tmt$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 3/24/2016 5:48 PM, Fabian Russell wrote: > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 09:50:28 -0500, chrisv wrote: > >> >> Gosh, so many different programming languages, with no consensus on >> which one is "best". New ones keep coming out, winning converts from >> the more-established products. Just like every other healthy market >> on the planet, with lots of choices being offered to satisfy the >> diverse needs of customers. >> > > Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! > > You do disappoint me. You have no idea what is happening. > > In the Microsoft world, which is probably the dominant developmental platform > in terms of numbers if not quality, What do you mean by this? > everything is being deliberately converged > into .NET using what is called, by Microsoft only, the Common Language Infrastructure > (CLI). > > Microsoft's idea with the .NET framework and CLI is to obliterate the differences between > all programming languages. In the .NET framework, C#, VB, C++, F# are all the fucking > same because the net result (no pun intended) of any code is the identical CIL, or Common > Intermediate Language, assembly. Apparently there are now 36 CLI languages. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CLI_languages#CLI_languages > For example, in any Visual Studio project it is quite possible to have portions > written in VB and other portions written in C# and yet other portions written > in any other fucking language that Microsoft has ported to .NET. Such casual mixing > would be impossible in any other developmental environment. > > Microsoft basically sees different languages as a nuisance rather than a blessing. Bozo > The Microsoft .NET framework, to any programming purist, is disgusting and irritating > shit-junk. > > But there are hordes of prissy queer fops that embrace .NET with a smug joy and > actually see themselves as serious programmers in the traditional sense, but, > as any keen mind will know, they just play paint-by-numbers games with Microsoft's > cheap toys. > > Microsoft wants there to be only ONE programming language that they will control. > > Fuck all that goddamned CLI, CIL assemblies, and queer-fop .NET "developers." You need to learn the "use the right tool for the job" axiom. > I will embrace only GNU/Linux. You will embrace whatever pays the bills, like any good Linux "advocate" hypocrite sellout who whines about MS and Windows by night, but uses their products to make a living by day. > So get a clue. Find out what is happening. > > Microsoft is the egregious enemy of all true programming and all true computing. Fabian Russell: Programming Purist. Drama queen. Virgin.
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Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-19 10:57 +0000
Real programmers use C++ John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 05:09 -0700
Re: Real programmers use C++ Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 06:11 -0700
the umpteen layers of abstraction inside of the Linux DE John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 06:39 -0700
Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-19 09:06 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-03-20 20:33 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-20 15:22 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-20 20:01 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-20 20:21 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-21 12:21 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-21 21:47 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-03-21 17:48 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-21 22:28 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-21 20:06 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-22 00:35 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-22 09:38 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-22 06:53 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-22 13:11 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-22 09:23 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-22 14:41 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-22 09:44 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-22 09:51 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-22 11:54 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-22 12:11 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-22 22:36 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-22 20:28 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-22 22:48 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-22 13:05 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-03-22 14:11 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-22 14:39 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-03-22 15:57 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-22 21:40 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-03-22 22:25 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-23 02:47 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-03-23 05:51 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-03-23 23:38 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-03-24 00:08 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-24 14:04 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-03-23 23:37 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers "Fabian Russell" <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-23 13:36 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-03-23 23:57 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-24 06:45 -0500
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-23 10:26 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-23 22:07 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-24 10:11 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-24 11:32 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-03-24 21:27 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-03-24 21:40 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-03-24 21:50 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-25 21:56 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-25 19:43 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Nobody <nobody@nowhere.net> - 2016-03-25 19:49 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-26 01:05 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-26 14:04 +0000
Re: Get a clue ! Microsoft doesn't use UTF_16 exclusively. Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-26 14:42 +0000
Re: Get a clue ! Microsoft doesn't use UTF_16 exclusively. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-03-26 12:27 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-26 22:42 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-26 22:25 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-27 00:42 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-26 20:50 -0700
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-27 09:52 +0200
Re: Developers Not Programmers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-27 14:56 -0700
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.dead> - 2016-03-26 17:36 -0500
Re: Developers Not Programmers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-03-26 20:09 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-26 20:52 -0700
Re: Developers Not Programmers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-03-26 02:42 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-22 07:25 -0500
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-22 12:52 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-22 12:59 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-22 21:03 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-23 10:38 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-03-23 02:09 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-03-23 05:50 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-03-23 11:33 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-23 07:04 -0500
Re: Developers Not Programmers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-03-23 08:49 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-23 09:50 -0500
Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-24 21:48 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-25 11:11 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-29 10:17 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-23 10:01 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-23 23:57 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-22 12:58 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-22 20:20 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-22 14:46 -0500
Re: Developers Not Programmers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-22 15:04 -0700
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-22 21:09 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-20 22:42 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-03-20 19:22 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-21 01:01 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-03-21 08:18 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-21 15:03 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers Nobody <nobody@nowhere.net> - 2016-03-20 21:08 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-20 21:07 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-03-22 14:25 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-25 14:36 -0400
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