Best teaching methodology for Forths?

From	Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Best teaching methodology for Forths?
Date	2016-03-04 07:16 +0200
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<nbb5il$n0l$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)

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I've noticed that among the 8th user-base, there are some who "get it"
immediately and within a week are writing real programs.  There are
others who, even after months, are barely able to write a functioning
program.

The first group consists not only of former Forthers, but also of
complete novices.  The second group seems to have far more long-term
C/Java users.

My question: what is the best way to teach people with disparate
backgrounds how to program effectively in a Forth-type language?

This is not an academic question: our distributor in India will be
giving workshops, and we want to help the students there get comfortable
and effective as quickly as possible.

Thanks for any constructive suggestions!

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Best teaching methodology for Forths? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 07:16 +0200
  Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-03-03 23:21 -0800
    Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-04 12:37 -0800
  Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? november.nihal@gmail.com - 2016-03-04 03:25 -0800
    Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 14:30 +0200
      Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? november.nihal@gmail.com - 2016-03-04 07:36 -0800
        Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-04 19:09 +0000
        Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 18:53 +0200
      Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 11:11 -0800
        Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 18:54 +0200
          Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 13:59 -0500
            Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-06 00:56 +0000
              Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-05 17:16 -0800
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 20:54 -0500
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-05 18:25 -0800
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-09 18:26 -0800
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-10 23:09 -0800
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 03:39 -0800
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-12 17:57 -0800
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 08:25 -0700
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 11:30 -0700
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-13 14:06 -0700
            Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-03-07 16:28 -0800
              Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 19:39 -0500
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-08 22:13 +0000
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-09 01:18 +0000
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 20:41 -0500
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-03-10 22:33 -0800
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-10 23:17 -0800
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-13 14:41 -0700
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 17:26 -0700
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-03-13 21:46 -1000
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-14 08:12 -0700
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-14 17:45 +0000
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-03-14 14:11 -1000
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-15 01:13 -0700
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-14 08:55 -0700
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Julian Fondren <ayrnieu@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 03:16 -0700
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-16 16:13 -0700
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-26 22:11 +0000
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-26 22:15 +0000
  Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 12:42 -0500
    Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-04 19:16 +0000
      Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 15:22 -0500
      Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 18:58 +0200
        Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-03-09 10:07 +1100
  Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? IanYellowley <iany99@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 13:57 -0800
    Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-04 15:07 -0800
      Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2016-03-05 11:22 +0000
        Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-05 15:10 -0800
          Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-06 00:05 +0000
            Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-05 17:06 -0800
            Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 20:58 -0500
            Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-14 11:10 -0700
        Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-05 15:23 -0800
          Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2016-03-06 09:28 +0000
            Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-06 13:45 -0800
    Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 18:59 +0200
  Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Whammo <sidciavic@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 19:47 -0800
  Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 16:19 -0700
    Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 07:29 +0200
    Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-03-24 04:44 -0500
    Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-24 12:47 +0000
      Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-24 10:19 -0700
        Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-25 00:54 +0000
          Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-24 19:24 -0700
            Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-25 11:38 +0000
              Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-25 12:42 +0000
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-25 09:07 -0400
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-03-25 07:54 -0700
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-25 14:29 +0000
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-03-25 21:17 +0000
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-26 00:43 +0000
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-26 12:06 +0000

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