Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths?

From	"HAA" <someone@microsoft.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths?
Date	2016-03-09 10:07 +1100
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Ron Aaron wrote:
> On 04/03/2016 21:16, Bernd Paysan wrote:
>
> > 8th is IMHO conceptually closer related to Factor than Forth, but this
> > apparently isn't a big problem for Forthers.
>
> Yep.  I haven't had any Forthers find 8th difficult, though there have
> been complaints about the lack of "create... does>' (which I've
> partially fixed in the last release).

This was one of the complaints about ColorForth IIRC.  The difficulty
with Forth-like languages is that forthers will always look at them in
terms of Forth - instead of what they're intended to be.  In short, you
need to attract a new audience which can be difficult when it comes
to stack-based languages.

As regards teaching I think most of it up to the student and how
willing they are to persist with it.  That was my experience with Forth.
What kept me going was the positive propaganda surrounding Forth.

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Best teaching methodology for Forths? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 07:16 +0200
  Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-03-03 23:21 -0800
    Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-04 12:37 -0800
  Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? november.nihal@gmail.com - 2016-03-04 03:25 -0800
    Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 14:30 +0200
      Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? november.nihal@gmail.com - 2016-03-04 07:36 -0800
        Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-04 19:09 +0000
        Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 18:53 +0200
      Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 11:11 -0800
        Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 18:54 +0200
          Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 13:59 -0500
            Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-06 00:56 +0000
              Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-05 17:16 -0800
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 20:54 -0500
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-05 18:25 -0800
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-09 18:26 -0800
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-10 23:09 -0800
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 03:39 -0800
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-12 17:57 -0800
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 08:25 -0700
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 11:30 -0700
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-13 14:06 -0700
            Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-03-07 16:28 -0800
              Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 19:39 -0500
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-08 22:13 +0000
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-09 01:18 +0000
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 20:41 -0500
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-03-10 22:33 -0800
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-10 23:17 -0800
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-13 14:41 -0700
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 17:26 -0700
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-03-13 21:46 -1000
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-14 08:12 -0700
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-14 17:45 +0000
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-03-14 14:11 -1000
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-15 01:13 -0700
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-14 08:55 -0700
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Julian Fondren <ayrnieu@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 03:16 -0700
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-16 16:13 -0700
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-26 22:11 +0000
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-26 22:15 +0000
  Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 12:42 -0500
    Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-04 19:16 +0000
      Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 15:22 -0500
      Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 18:58 +0200
        Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-03-09 10:07 +1100
  Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? IanYellowley <iany99@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 13:57 -0800
    Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-04 15:07 -0800
      Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2016-03-05 11:22 +0000
        Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-05 15:10 -0800
          Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-06 00:05 +0000
            Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-05 17:06 -0800
            Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 20:58 -0500
            Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-14 11:10 -0700
        Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-05 15:23 -0800
          Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2016-03-06 09:28 +0000
            Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-06 13:45 -0800
    Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 18:59 +0200
  Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Whammo <sidciavic@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 19:47 -0800
  Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 16:19 -0700
    Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 07:29 +0200
    Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-03-24 04:44 -0500
    Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-24 12:47 +0000
      Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-24 10:19 -0700
        Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-25 00:54 +0000
          Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-24 19:24 -0700
            Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-25 11:38 +0000
              Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-25 12:42 +0000
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-25 09:07 -0400
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-03-25 07:54 -0700
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-25 14:29 +0000
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-03-25 21:17 +0000
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-26 00:43 +0000
                Re: Best teaching methodology for Forths? Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-26 12:06 +0000

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