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Re: 'shake well'

From occam <occam@nowhere.nix>
Newsgroups alt.usage.english
Subject Re: 'shake well'
Date 2026-07-04 16:25 +0200
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On 04/07/2026 12:59, Ross Clark wrote:
> On 4/07/2026 6:43 p.m., Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
>> Den 04.07.2026 kl. 04.33 skrev Rich Ulrich:
>>
>>> But my lifetime experience with other sealed containers has
>>> taught me that a juice container (say) with sediment on the
>>> bottom will NOT be mixed by shaking unless there is air inside.
>>> You can shake it and SEE that the sediment is not affected.
>>> But they still may say, 'shake well'.
>>>
>>>
>>> Half-empty makes for effective mix-by-shaking. which may  be
>>> okay if you are pouring everything back together.
>>>
>>> If the container is transparent (even, just at the bottom), you
>>> can see what is stuck on the bottom.  But what do you do for
>>> a cardboard container?
>>
>> My father provides orange juice for me when I visit him. I don't
>> usually drink juice due to the acidic contents, but I enjoy doing so
>> occasionally.
>>
>> The container is made of cardboard. If it is full, I just pour a glass
>> and drink it. Then I can shake the container for the next glass(es).
>>
>> Related - and Danish:
>> There's a word about the sediment that may be found in wine bottles
>> ("bærme"). The same word can be used about people meaning that they
>> are worthless. I haven't heard that word since my parents explained it
>> to me and I haven't used it about anything else than the residue in
>> wine bottles - which I think I have seen once.
>>
> 
> Cf. English: barmy (sometimes spelled balmy) 'crazy, stupid'
> from barm 'froth on fermenting malt liquor'   (COD)

Sorry, which dictionary is COD? 'balmy' in my speech is 'pleasant' as in
'balmy summer nights'. It's barmy if it shares the same spelling with
'crazy' barmy.

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'shake well' Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-07-03 22:33 -0400
  Re: 'shake well' Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 00:03 -0400
    Re: 'shake well' Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 23:05 -0700
    Re: 'shake well' occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-04 12:02 +0200
      Re: 'shake well' Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-07-04 08:46 -0400
        Re: 'shake well' Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-04 20:26 +0200
      Re: 'shake well' Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 09:28 -0400
  Re: 'shake well' Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-04 06:38 +0100
    Re: 'shake well' Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-04 08:49 +0200
  Re: 'shake well' Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-04 06:51 +0100
    Re: 'shake well' Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-07-04 08:48 -0400
  Re: 'shake well' occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-04 08:28 +0200
  Re: 'shake well' Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-04 08:43 +0200
    Re: 'shake well' Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-04 08:02 +0100
      Re: 'shake well' nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-04 11:53 +0200
      Re: 'shake well' Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-04 20:05 +0100
    Re: 'shake well' Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-07-04 22:59 +1200
      Re: 'shake well' occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-04 16:25 +0200
        Re: 'shake well' HVS <office@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> - 2026-07-04 16:11 +0100
          Re: 'shake well' Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-04 16:27 +0100
          Re: 'shake well' richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-04 15:40 +0000
            Re: 'shake well' Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-07-05 10:06 +0100
        Re: 'shake well' Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-07-04 16:00 +0000
        Re: 'shake well' Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-07-05 18:05 +1200
          Re: 'shake well' occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-05 08:45 +0200
    Re: 'shake well' Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-07-04 08:39 -0400
  Re: 'shake well' nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-04 11:53 +0200
    Re: 'shake well' occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-04 12:05 +0200
      Re: 'shake well' liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-04 12:29 +0100
        Re: 'shake well' Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-05 00:20 -0700
        Re: 'shake well' nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-05 09:22 +0200
  Re: 'shake well' "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 21:49 +0800
  Re: 'shake well' Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-04 20:01 +0100

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