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Re: 'shake well'

From Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.usage.english
Subject Re: 'shake well'
Date 2026-07-04 08:02 +0100
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Le 04/07/2026 à 07:43, Bertel Lund Hansen a écrit :
> 
> Related - and Danish:
> There's a word about the sediment that may be found in wine bottles 
> ("bærme"). The same word can be used about people meaning that they are 
> worthless. I haven't heard that word since my parents explained it to me 
> and I haven't used it about anything else than the residue in wine 
> bottles - which I think I have seen once.


In English, 'lees' in wine or beer, 'dregs' more generally, for coffee 
etc.. 'Dregs' is also used pejoratively, e.g. the dregs of society.

'Lie' in French, also used pejoratively - la lie du peuple etc..

'Lees' from Old French, 'dregs' from Old Norse (Collins). As so often in 
English, two words in a job-sharing arrangement.

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'shake well' Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-07-03 22:33 -0400
  Re: 'shake well' Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 00:03 -0400
    Re: 'shake well' Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 23:05 -0700
    Re: 'shake well' occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-04 12:02 +0200
      Re: 'shake well' Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-07-04 08:46 -0400
        Re: 'shake well' Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-04 20:26 +0200
      Re: 'shake well' Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 09:28 -0400
  Re: 'shake well' Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-04 06:38 +0100
    Re: 'shake well' Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-04 08:49 +0200
  Re: 'shake well' Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-04 06:51 +0100
    Re: 'shake well' Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-07-04 08:48 -0400
  Re: 'shake well' occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-04 08:28 +0200
  Re: 'shake well' Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-04 08:43 +0200
    Re: 'shake well' Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-04 08:02 +0100
      Re: 'shake well' nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-04 11:53 +0200
      Re: 'shake well' Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-04 20:05 +0100
    Re: 'shake well' Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-07-04 22:59 +1200
      Re: 'shake well' occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-04 16:25 +0200
        Re: 'shake well' HVS <office@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> - 2026-07-04 16:11 +0100
          Re: 'shake well' Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-04 16:27 +0100
          Re: 'shake well' richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-04 15:40 +0000
        Re: 'shake well' Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-07-04 16:00 +0000
    Re: 'shake well' Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-07-04 08:39 -0400
  Re: 'shake well' nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-04 11:53 +0200
    Re: 'shake well' occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-04 12:05 +0200
      Re: 'shake well' liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-04 12:29 +0100
  Re: 'shake well' "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 21:49 +0800
  Re: 'shake well' Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-04 20:01 +0100

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