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Re: 'shake well'

From Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz>
Newsgroups alt.usage.english
Subject Re: 'shake well'
Date 2026-07-04 22:59 +1200
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On 4/07/2026 6:43 p.m., Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> Den 04.07.2026 kl. 04.33 skrev Rich Ulrich:
> 
>> But my lifetime experience with other sealed containers has
>> taught me that a juice container (say) with sediment on the
>> bottom will NOT be mixed by shaking unless there is air inside.
>> You can shake it and SEE that the sediment is not affected.
>> But they still may say, 'shake well'.
>>
>>
>> Half-empty makes for effective mix-by-shaking. which may  be
>> okay if you are pouring everything back together.
>>
>> If the container is transparent (even, just at the bottom), you
>> can see what is stuck on the bottom.  But what do you do for
>> a cardboard container?
> 
> My father provides orange juice for me when I visit him. I don't usually 
> drink juice due to the acidic contents, but I enjoy doing so occasionally.
> 
> The container is made of cardboard. If it is full, I just pour a glass 
> and drink it. Then I can shake the container for the next glass(es).
> 
> Related - and Danish:
> There's a word about the sediment that may be found in wine bottles 
> ("bærme"). The same word can be used about people meaning that they are 
> worthless. I haven't heard that word since my parents explained it to me 
> and I haven't used it about anything else than the residue in wine 
> bottles - which I think I have seen once.
> 

Cf. English: barmy (sometimes spelled balmy) 'crazy, stupid'
from barm 'froth on fermenting malt liquor'   (COD)

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'shake well' Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-07-03 22:33 -0400
  Re: 'shake well' Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 00:03 -0400
    Re: 'shake well' Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 23:05 -0700
    Re: 'shake well' occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-04 12:02 +0200
      Re: 'shake well' Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-07-04 08:46 -0400
        Re: 'shake well' Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-04 20:26 +0200
      Re: 'shake well' Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 09:28 -0400
  Re: 'shake well' Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-04 06:38 +0100
    Re: 'shake well' Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-04 08:49 +0200
  Re: 'shake well' Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-04 06:51 +0100
    Re: 'shake well' Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-07-04 08:48 -0400
  Re: 'shake well' occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-04 08:28 +0200
  Re: 'shake well' Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-04 08:43 +0200
    Re: 'shake well' Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-04 08:02 +0100
      Re: 'shake well' nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-04 11:53 +0200
      Re: 'shake well' Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-04 20:05 +0100
    Re: 'shake well' Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-07-04 22:59 +1200
      Re: 'shake well' occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-04 16:25 +0200
        Re: 'shake well' HVS <office@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> - 2026-07-04 16:11 +0100
          Re: 'shake well' Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-04 16:27 +0100
          Re: 'shake well' richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-04 15:40 +0000
            Re: 'shake well' Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-07-05 10:06 +0100
        Re: 'shake well' Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-07-04 16:00 +0000
        Re: 'shake well' Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-07-05 18:05 +1200
          Re: 'shake well' occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-05 08:45 +0200
    Re: 'shake well' Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-07-04 08:39 -0400
  Re: 'shake well' nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-04 11:53 +0200
    Re: 'shake well' occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-04 12:05 +0200
      Re: 'shake well' liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-04 12:29 +0100
        Re: 'shake well' Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-05 00:20 -0700
        Re: 'shake well' nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-05 09:22 +0200
  Re: 'shake well' "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 21:49 +0800
  Re: 'shake well' Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-04 20:01 +0100

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