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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Why isn't ether confirmed |
| Date | 2016-02-22 09:04 -0600 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <naf82e$m5e$2@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink) |
| References | <cc24e75c-e8b0-442c-b292-6bf64d8b6d4f@googlegroups.com> <dinvf2Fke0kU1@mid.individual.net> <YGAxy.438$7h2.14@fx10.iad> <dio4miFlmd0U1@mid.individual.net> |
On 2/19/2016 3:13 AM, Sylvia Else wrote: >> You can start, "Sylvia" with the fact that "empty" space has properties. >> People shrug this off with word games saying that really there is no >> Aether but the properties belong to "space itself". What does that >> nonsense mean? Nothing. It means it's a word game switching the term >> "aether" for some other label. Fact is that if there are propagating >> waves, then by definition there MUST be a medium. IF there is a medium >> it MUST have properties. All these things are well known, yet the aether >> deniers persist in their word games for some unknown political purpose. >> > > You're assuming what you're trying to prove. How do you know that waves > always require a medium? Ben holds an understanding of "space" that says it cannot have physical properties, and an understanding of "wave" that says it must have a medium. And because this is HIS understanding of those words, he believes that is the ONLY CORRECT meaning of those words. Perhaps this is how he was taught that those words mean, and he is generally opposed to any shifting of meanings of those words since he was taught them decades ago. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-18 23:15 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-19 18:44 +1100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-18 23:59 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2016-02-19 09:42 +0100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-19 01:02 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2016-02-19 10:15 +0100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-19 01:21 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2016-02-19 12:23 +0100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-19 03:37 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 05:48 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-19 06:04 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 07:24 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-19 22:03 +1100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Stzepan Zdrobněliny <stzepan282@guadalajara.org> - 2016-02-19 19:20 +0000
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 20:01 -0500
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-19 19:56 +1100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-19 01:07 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 00:11 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 03:45 -0500
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 09:02 -0600
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 08:53 -0600
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 09:48 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 10:02 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 12:14 -0600
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 10:29 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-22 10:30 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 12:43 -0600
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 15:40 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 03:49 -0500
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-19 20:13 +1100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-20 07:13 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 09:27 -0600
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed wugi <brol@brol.be> - 2016-02-27 15:08 +0100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 09:04 -0600
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed kunz <gx@fp.cdfy.7h> - 2016-02-19 13:08 +0000
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-21 14:20 +0100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-07 20:44 +0100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed François Theobaldus <fraop@sshimown.org> - 2016-03-07 21:24 +0000
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 14:37 -0500
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-19 09:40 -0600
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-19 17:13 +0100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 09:14 -0600
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-24 09:44 -0600
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed PC <pc468@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-24 16:50 +0000
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 08:38 -0600
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-20 11:11 +0100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-19 14:16 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 15:15 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-20 07:49 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 22:08 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-21 09:09 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-02-21 09:37 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 20:00 -0500
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-20 18:28 -0600
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 09:18 -0600
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-20 18:11 -0600
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-21 09:07 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 10:37 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-21 11:30 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 15:18 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-23 12:33 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 12:54 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-23 15:27 +1100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-23 12:21 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 13:07 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-23 23:11 +0100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 14:18 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-24 08:10 +0100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-24 09:00 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed PC <pc468@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-24 17:14 +0000
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-24 09:34 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed PC <pc468@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-24 22:10 +0000
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-25 23:22 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed PC <pc468@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-26 12:54 +0000
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-24 22:36 +0100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-24 18:27 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-25 08:59 +0100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-25 04:53 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-25 18:17 +0100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed PC <pc468@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-25 17:43 +0000
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-25 10:55 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed PC <pc468@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-25 19:20 +0000
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-25 10:53 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-24 11:28 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-24 11:26 +1100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-24 11:40 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-25 16:10 +1100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-25 07:37 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-25 08:01 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-25 10:26 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-25 12:11 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 12:43 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 13:15 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-25 22:21 +0100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 15:51 -0600
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-25 20:07 -0600
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 18:36 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-25 20:33 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-25 23:31 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-26 09:12 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-27 12:08 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-27 22:50 +0100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 22:56 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-28 09:50 +0100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-25 22:18 +0100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed PC <pc468@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-25 21:45 +0000
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-25 16:56 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 20:45 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 23:12 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-25 23:35 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 00:03 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 00:07 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-26 00:32 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 00:33 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-26 09:41 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-26 15:04 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-27 11:51 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-27 12:09 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-27 13:08 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-27 13:48 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-28 08:46 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-28 10:24 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-28 11:36 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-28 16:03 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-29 12:28 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-28 23:35 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 00:21 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-29 00:32 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-29 04:58 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-29 05:42 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-29 06:04 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-29 06:16 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-29 06:46 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Emigdio Sophronius <emigg@augustvisitors.org> - 2016-02-29 16:39 +0000
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 13:09 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 15:30 -0600
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-29 14:25 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:31 -0600
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:34 -0600
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:35 -0600
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:37 -0600
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-29 23:15 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 04:40 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-01 06:09 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 06:23 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 07:19 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-01 22:55 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 03:19 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-02 03:26 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 03:38 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-29 16:45 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 04:38 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-07 12:05 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-29 19:50 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-29 23:13 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-26 09:19 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-20 07:07 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-20 18:29 -0600
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-20 16:35 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-21 10:09 +0100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 22:29 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-22 10:39 +0100
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-22 03:03 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 05:07 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-22 05:38 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 06:03 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-22 06:25 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 06:37 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-22 06:46 -0800
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Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-22 23:50 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 09:43 -0800
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Stzepan Zdrobněliny <stzepan282@guadalajara.org> - 2016-02-22 18:50 +0000
Re: Why isn't ether confirmed "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-22 21:14 +0100
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Re: Why isn't ether confirmed "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-23 21:59 +0100
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